Originally Posted by mre5765

Three people on this thread have mentioned problems. That's a high enough hit rate for me.

Presenting ID is stupid. So if you believe in standing on ceremony, why take the middle ground and present a valid ID older than 10 years old with some sticker anyone with a laser printer could reproduce, and instead why not simply present no ID? It is after all your legal right.

If the objective is to get through the TSA's gauntlet of stupidity with a minimum of fuss, use an ID that is less than 10 years old that has an expiration date under the laminate instead of over it.



More power to them. But if they fly frequently, and miss some flights because of it, they might think different.

For me it would be the latter. Indeed, if your driving record is clean, and you fill out the paperwork correctly, you can renew by email and avoid the trip to the DMV.

While I don't have a stickered D.L., I do have a green card with no expiration date. DHS wants us resident alien scum to get green cards with 10 year expiration dates. They have a systematic program of harassment at some ports of entry (YYC and DEN for example) to threaten us. YVR, YEG, ORD, SFO, IAD: it is "welcome to the USA". In DEN/YYC: get a new green card or else. Must be something about cowboys and cowgirls.

I cross borders far less often than I fly domestically, but the last incident at YYC was enough for me to pay DHS their $300 pound of flesh, and waste a Saturday morning at the DHS office in suburban Denver to get this taken care of. At least this time around, DHS finally clarified the process and having weekend processing made it less painful.

I'm backing my advice with actions. Though 60 days on I'm still waiting for my new green card. Chertoff is an idiot. At the very least I've a paper trail I can show to border officers the next time I'm hassled.