(89-92)Hoover-Fresno, was a decent policy debater and national finalist extemp
(92-93)UCLA, outrounds at CEDA nationals as a freshman
(95-96)Cal State Fresno, 2nd DSR-TKA in parliamentary
(93-96)Coached Bullard-Fresno, California state champs in policy debate and several extemp students in late outrounds at NFL nationals.