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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 8:47 pm
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This post is so scary, I may soil myself.

Originally Posted by SgtScott31
There is definitely always two sides to every story, and I would expect some of you not to hold so much weight to her (and the media's) side without having all of the facts in front of you.
Did you not watch the video? Did you not see where it started with the woman standing next to the TSO doing his thing. Next, the officer shows up and pulls her to the ground. No conversation, no negotiation, no warning - just a violent attack five seconds after showing up.

Originally Posted by SgtScott31
A girl that says:

1 - She did absolutely nothing wrong and it happened without any provocation. Riiight, several people just felt like risking their jobs by coming up behind you and pulling you away from the belt.
You know very well the way american police, military, etc work is to make very broad statements when they are wrong about a situation. However, any time there are real facts to support their actions then all of a sudden, very vivid details come out. WHen it comes to american police/military, No details means they are lying

I don't know the facts because I was not there. From the video, it did look like there was some definite arguing going on. If I had to take a guess on the short video without any audio or other facts, I would think that she was told to step back from her belongings to get screened and refused to.
Allow me to summarize what you are saying via this rudimentary FLow CHart:

Pax argues ---> Ask Pax to step back ---> Pax refuses ---> Attack pax

Again, no concept of using negotiation to diffuse anger; no concept of reasonable force, no concept of decency.

If you have initiated the screening process and refuse to do anything TSA tells you to do, then LE will be called and you will be subject to search because of your behavior and/or actions. One of the highest courts has already ruled on this.
Irrelevant to this case

Her level of cooperation has everything to do with it. If you do not want to cooperate with TSA, then don't fly commercially. If you do not agree with how you are treated, it is not a good idea to start causing a big "ruckus" at the checkpoint .This can definitely lead to an arrest. I would say 99% of the traveling public are smart enough to handle it a civilized way by filing complaints with the appropriate agencies involved.
I support the 1% who will fight fire with fire.
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