Wyndham Devaluation Feb 11

Old Feb 3, 20, 12:47 pm
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Wyndham Devaluation Feb 11

Wyndham has announced a devaluation of their points as of February 11.

"On Feb. 11, 2020, we’ll be changing the number of points required to book award nights at some of our hotels."
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Old Feb 4, 20, 3:44 pm
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Another one? Or are they just adjusting the categories the hotels fall in?
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Old Feb 4, 20, 8:30 pm
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Seems both. Refunds will be issued for the differences. Some will fall more will go up.
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Old Feb 4, 20, 9:33 pm
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After the last deval I just transfer my points ( 30K per year) to Caesars. 30K is worth $300 at Caesars bu the best value is using 1K for entrance to the Diamond Lounge assuming you matched Wyndham Diamond to Caesars
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Old Feb 5, 20, 12:00 am
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After the last deval I just transfer my points ( 30K per year) to Caesars. 30K is worth $300 at Caesars bu the best value is using 1K for entrance to the Diamond Lounge assuming you matched Wyndham Diamond to Caesars
But is Caesars of any value if you don't want to stay in Las Vegas or Atlantic City or such? (Besides the value of transferring back and forth to stave off 4 year expiration at WyndhamRewards?)
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Old Feb 5, 20, 1:16 am
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But is Caesars of any value if you don't want to stay in Las Vegas or Atlantic City or such? (Besides the value of transferring back and forth to stave off 4 year expiration at WyndhamRewards?)
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After the last deval I just transfer my points ( 30K per year) to Caesars. 30K is worth $300 at Caesars bu the best value is using 1K for entrance to the Diamond Lounge assuming you matched Wyndham Diamond to Caesars

I must have missed the part where I said this would work for all or even be the best use of points for anyone else.

BTW, Caesars has properties in ~ 10 states I believe and other cities in Nevada besides Vegas and even different countries..............if you want the exact numbers have fun looking them up
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Old Feb 5, 20, 11:21 pm
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Caesars has properties in ~ 10 states I believe and other cities in Nevada besides Vegas and even different countries..............if you want the exact numbers have fun looking them up
Yes, but since they are a casino company, they only tend have hotels only in certain kinds of places. They don't help you get close to a national or state park, or most other outdoor exploration areas, with the possible exception of Lake Tahoe, except that Lake Tahoe their hotel is so low priced ("starting at $79") that it makes no sense to redeem, but rather to earn, unless perhaps you want to go on peak dates and yet there are redemptions available on those peak dates.

Maybe some locations would work for events perhaps? I wonder if Harrah New Orleans would work for Jazz Fest attendance on the cheap, for example?

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Yes, but since they are a casino company, they only tend have hotels only in certain kinds of places. They don't help you get close to a national or state park, or most other outdoor exploration areas, with the possible exception of Lake Tahoe, except that Lake Tahoe their hotel is so low priced ("starting at $79") that it makes no sense to redeem, but rather to earn, unless perhaps you want to go on peak dates and yet there are redemptions available on those peak dates.

Maybe some locations would work for events perhaps? I wonder if Harrah New Orleans would work for Jazz Fest attendance on the cheap, for example?
I guess the obvious answer is if Caesars doesn't work for a person then don't transfer to them.

A lot of people who go to Vegas do day trips to the Hoover Dam and Grand Canyon.

Caesars ( Harrahs) is in NC and Baltimore so I'm sure there is something nearby as far as attractions, the Inner Harbor in Balt.

I'm not redeeming Wyndham points for rooms as we get free rooms. I transfer the points from Wyndham to CET and redeem the points for on site purchases so if a restaurant bill is $150 we redeem 15,000 RC's or what was 15,000 Wyndham points.

For us the best value by far for Wyndham points is 1000 points and the Wyndham Diamond match ( we matched IHG Platinum to get Wyndham Diamond) gets us in the Caesars ( or any CET property) Diamond lounge, that's $10 for unlimited top shelf drinks and food in Vegas.

Many people think everything in Vegas is still free when it's far from it , a Bud bottle will cost you ~ $10 in a strip casino bar if you are paying.

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Old Feb 11, 20, 10:50 am
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I only had one reservation where the point requirements increased, so I felt descent about booking ahead of today's changes. None of the bookings dropped a tier. I did; however, make a number of reservations yesterday just in case values increased, but totally called it wrong. Hopefully one of the bloggers publishes a list, as I am interested in seeing which properties increased in their redemption tier.
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Old Feb 11, 20, 2:41 pm
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Only one I checked was Oahu and they stayed at 15K. Which isn't that surprising as paid raters are usually under $200. Curious also what hotels went up to 30K.
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Old Feb 11, 20, 6:02 pm
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I had a few hundred thousand points expiring soon and booked 20 nights between next week and september. A few I have booked went up and none have went down but one in Cody I want to book another year went down. Nothing went down where consistently prices would reflect they should go down. But it is not an efficient market and I am glad I booked what I did. NYC has had a lot drop to 15k where I just stayed there in November paying 30k a night.
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Old Feb 12, 20, 6:56 pm
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I had a few hundred thousand points expiring soon and booked 20 nights between next week and september. A few I have booked went up and none have went down but one in Cody I want to book another year went down. Nothing went down where consistently prices would reflect they should go down. But it is not an efficient market and I am glad I booked what I did. NYC has had a lot drop to 15k where I just stayed there in November paying 30k a night.
What property dropped in Cody? I have it booked for this summer, and the AmericInn is at 30k and the Super8 is at 15k. Neither changed?

What dropped in NYC? The LaQuinta remained at 15k, as has the Club Wyndham. All others in the city are at 30k.

Am I overlooking something???

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Old Feb 22, 20, 4:32 am
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When checked they were 15k. But now see 30k as it was before.
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