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drive MIA-WashDC + LisbonP / best use (11) award nights?

drive MIA-WashDC + LisbonP / best use (11) award nights?

Old Apr 3, 17, 11:14 am
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drive MIA-WashDC + LisbonP / best use (11) award nights?

147,401 Barclay Wyndham (may breach 150K before trips)
3,654 Barclay Wyndham wife (pts + cash possible)

Need advice from Wyndham experts as to best hotels;
Itinerary (a) flexible, great hotel-resort(s) could modify stops;
(am travel photographer, always seeking photo opps)

a. meandering MIA-WashDC 21 days May approx as follows:
(via Enterprise full size one-way $171 total 21-days)
2 nights StAug-Jax area
1 night BrunswickGA area
2 nights SavannahGA area
2 nights CharlestonSC (maybe HiltonHead, too) area
2 nights MyrtleBeachSC area
2 nights RaleighNC area
2-3 nights RichmondVA area
7 nights Wash DC (prefer city ctr nr. Metro+buses)
(Amtrak award roomette WashDC-MIA)

3 wks later:
14 nights LIS Jun-Jul (Lufth award on TAP)
(prefer city center nr. public transportation)

Searched WashDC & flopped, only below-average-rated
DaysInns offered 5/23-30...
Searched Lisbon & 0 offerings!!!??
Am I mishandling online searches?

Thanks in advance!
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Old Apr 3, 17, 2:50 pm
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PS. want to avoid high parking-resort fees
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Old Apr 3, 17, 6:49 pm
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Well, another thing you should avoid is cross-posting on FlyerTalk!
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Old Apr 3, 17, 9:26 pm
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One post was general, many hotel chains.
This post is specifically Wyndham hotels.
Does that constitute "cross" posting?
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Old Apr 4, 17, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelPhotographer View Post
One post was general, many hotel chains.
This post is specifically Wyndham hotels.
Does that constitute "cross" posting?
If you duplicate the same content (not all of which is Wyndham specific), then yes, that's "cross" posting. The better approach is to post one thread meant for replies, and then post threads in other forums linking back to the main thread and asking that discussion continue there.

For example, you talk about your needs in Lisbon, but you apparently didn't do a simple check of WyndhamRewards properties there, or else you'd have realized there's only one within 100 miles, and it's 21 miles outside of town.

Btw, for those interested, the OP's main thread is at:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/infor...-14-night.html (in the Information Desk forum)
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Old Apr 5, 17, 12:47 pm
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The Mills House, Wyndham Grand is right in the heart of Charleston. Excellent location. Charleston is about 30 minutes east of I95, so not much out of the way. Valet parking is $30, but you should be able to find a city parking building for $16 per 24 hours.
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Hilton Head has a decent looking Wyndham choice. A Ramada Inn. Unlike some Wyndham properties, it's located in a safe neighborhood. I've never stayed there but it looks well maintained. It has a nice, reasonable Italian restaurant on site, that's popular with locals. You'd be at the north end of the Island, so you might want to plan on driving 20 minutes south to visit Harbor Town.
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Old Apr 6, 17, 11:05 am
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Thanks for Charleston-HiltonHead tips!
Although all Wyndham Hotels are ?15K/night?, does
any kind of tier system list exist where I could
easily search for upper tiers in FL-GA-SC-NC-VA-DC? Thanks!
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Old Apr 6, 17, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelPhotographer View Post
Thanks for Charleston-HiltonHead tips!
Although all Wyndham Hotels are ?15K/night?, does
any kind of tier system list exist where I could
easily search for upper tiers in FL-GA-SC-NC-VA-DC? Thanks!
What do you mean by upper tiers?

The terms "tiers" usually refers to redemption levels, and there is no such thing at WyndhamRewards at all any more, since all WyndhamRewards properties are 15k/night. And, in any case, hotel tier (at other programs) is not indicative of hotel quality or hotel features, just of how many points you need per night. (And why would want to pay more points per night? )

If you mean higher quality hotels, unfortunately that doesn't necessarily correlate to anything could search on, as one hotel in a given brand may be fine but another not so great. You'd have to parse reviews (for example, on TripAdvisor) carefully (though you don't need to be careful to throw out the ones with lowest TripAdvisor scores without parsing the reviews) to know which ones are really best for your needs.

If you meant hotels with certain features, well it depends on the specific features as to whether you can search based on them at the WyndhamRewards website. Whether the hotel has a pool, maybe you can search on that. Whether the hotel has someone who will offer to carry your bags waiting at the hotel entrance, I doubt you can search on that.

One of the reasons WyndhamRewards can be 15k/night for all properties is that it just doesn't have "aspirational" brands. There's no equivalent of Ritz-Carlton (if there were, you could be sure there wouldn't be a flat 15k/night for all properties). The best you can hope for is a hotel that just does their job of running the hotel really well, and I'm pretty sure there's no way to search on that other than perhaps looking for the highest TripAdivisor scores (which WyndhamRewards shows in a hotel search results list for each hotel).

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Old Apr 8, 17, 5:39 pm
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> If you mean higher quality hotels...

Yes. Thanks.
Wyndham Grand tip above hints at "above average" segment.
Unfortunately, no other "Grands" between north FL & WashDC...?

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Wyndham has the Dolce brand, considered upscale. It's a "collection" of independent hotels selling through Wyndham. You have to call to make an award reservation, but might be the "upper tier" you are looking for.
Don't know if they have anything along your route...
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Old Apr 12, 17, 9:54 pm
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> Dolce

Thanks. Not along route. Too bad.
But there are multiple Wyndham Vacation Properties SC & NC.
1 bdrm = 15Kpts, but some allegedly have minimum length stays.
Their own phone rep couldn't figure out details!!!
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Old Apr 15, 17, 7:54 pm
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> One of the reasons WyndhamRewards can be 15k/night for all properties is that it just doesn't have "aspirational" brands

Aspirational? Dozens of upscale resorts nationwide
accept Wyndham 15Kpts/night if 1-bdrm at
www.WyndhamVacationRentals.com
www.ExtraHolidays.com
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Old Apr 16, 17, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by TravelPhotographer View Post
> One of the reasons WyndhamRewards can be 15k/night for all properties is that it just doesn't have "aspirational" brands

Aspirational? Dozens of upscale resorts nationwide
accept Wyndham 15Kpts/night if 1-bdrm at
www.WyndhamVacationRentals.com
www.ExtraHolidays.com
1. I said aspirational brands, not aspirational locations. Ie, they don't have something equivalent to a Ritz-Carlton or Waldorf Astoria brand that they drop into big cities left and right and has brand consistency. One Wyndham resort is nice, another Wyndham resort is a dump, just like Wyndham (non-resort).

2. Threads about with people having problems actually booking rewards consistently at those aspirational locations. I'm not saying it never happens, but it sure seems to result in a big portion of the message traffic in this forum! Ie, the rules about how many rooms a property needs to put up for reward nights seem to be such that some aspirational properties have comparatively few rooms that ever get put up for rewards and they get booked right away, whether as awards or most likely as the cheapest room rates. (Reward rooms don't come out of a separate inventory; when whichever categories of rooms that were made available for rewards sells out, even if it sells out 100% on paid rates, reward rooms can disappear. That's how it works in most hotel programs.)
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