NO HURRY TO FLAP WINGS
Jun 17, 2001, 7:24 am
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NO HURRY TO FLAP WINGS
NO HURRY TO FLAP WINGS
Van Wijk said the venture would wait for regulatory approval to be in place, putting an eventual launch more than ``a few months down the road''.
While MAS, the only major Asian carrier still flying solo, could be the Asian link to the alliance no one on Saturday would indicate any definite commitment on that front.
MAS and KLM plan to align marketing, sales and distribution activities, starting with those related to codeshare flights between their hub airports in Malaysia and the Netherlands.
``The two intend to work towards a joint venture on the Kuala Lumpur-Amsterdam route, sharing costs and revenues,'' they said in a statement.
The airlines will also seek additional codeshare services and possible alignment of both passenger and cargo activities as well as ground handling, purchasing, catering, engineering and maintenance.
On a separate matter, Van Wijk said talks about a possible equity stake taken in Malaysia Airport Holdings Bhd by Amsterdam airport operator Schiphol Group were going well.
``I have been told very good progress has been made. It's likely that a deal could be done,'' he said.
http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010616/klr195359.html
Van Wijk said the venture would wait for regulatory approval to be in place, putting an eventual launch more than ``a few months down the road''.
While MAS, the only major Asian carrier still flying solo, could be the Asian link to the alliance no one on Saturday would indicate any definite commitment on that front.
MAS and KLM plan to align marketing, sales and distribution activities, starting with those related to codeshare flights between their hub airports in Malaysia and the Netherlands.
``The two intend to work towards a joint venture on the Kuala Lumpur-Amsterdam route, sharing costs and revenues,'' they said in a statement.
The airlines will also seek additional codeshare services and possible alignment of both passenger and cargo activities as well as ground handling, purchasing, catering, engineering and maintenance.
On a separate matter, Van Wijk said talks about a possible equity stake taken in Malaysia Airport Holdings Bhd by Amsterdam airport operator Schiphol Group were going well.
``I have been told very good progress has been made. It's likely that a deal could be done,'' he said.
http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010616/klr195359.html
Jun 17, 2001, 7:37 am
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Or is it just that MAS doesn't consider JAL a major carrier? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
Jul 15, 2001, 8:23 am
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Com'on TG. Quit Star and join Wing.
TG has more or less (unoffically) been kicked out of Star by the cash rich SQ. TG needs to know when to walk away.
TG has more or less (unoffically) been kicked out of Star by the cash rich SQ. TG needs to know when to walk away.
Jul 15, 2001, 9:09 am
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I am traveling on a RTW with what may be the future of "Wings" on new RTW fare which allows travel on fifteen airlines. It has been hinted this group of airlines is about to integrate FF programs and become a true alliance. I was able to make routing that put the vast majority of miles in my Northwest account. This fare is discussed at http://www.airtimetable.com/rtwframes.htm you must use the KLM/Northwest link. The fares listed at that site do not reflect deep discounts available for departures origination from Canada. We are starting our trip, this Friday, from Canada and were able to get by far the least expensive RTW of any major "alliance".
Aug 7, 2001, 3:23 pm
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Several months ago KLM was in talks with Air Europa - nobody seems to know what became of them. AT the time KLM felt Air Europa would be an excellent partner and give them better coverage of the Iberian peninsula and Balearics. We're also all waiting for Continental to "make up their mind" about Wings. Considering their new flight to AMS and the development of codesharing on certain flights with Air Europa plus their route network the two of them would definitely boost the Wings Alliance.
http://www.continental.com/dash/buil..._2001-08-07-01
Continental Airlines and Air Europa of Spain announced today that they have agreed to form a cooperative marketing relationship to include codesharing on selected flights and reciprocal frequent flyer program participation.
Subject to government approval, Continental and Air Europa plan to start codesharing effective November 1, 2001 on Air Europa-operated flights between Madrid and Barcelona, Malaga and Palma de Mallorca; and on Continental-operated flights between Madrid and New York/Newark and between New York/Newark and Atlanta, Boston, Chicago/Midway, Chicago/O'Hare, Cleveland, Dallas/Fort Worth, Denver, Detroit, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New Orleans, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Washington/Dulles and San Juan, Puerto Rico. These flights will display the designator codes of both Continental (CO) and Air Europa (UX) and will be marketed by both carriers.
Effective November 1, 2001, members of Continental's frequent flyer program, OnePass, will be able to earn and redeem miles on all Air Europa flights and members of Air Europa's frequent flyer program, Fidelitas, will be able to do the same anywhere on Continental's network.
Continental operates a daily Boeing 767-400ER non-stop flight between Madrid and New York/Newark featuring its award-winning BusinessFirst service.
"We're delighted to sign this alliance agreement with Air Europa, who share our commitment to excellent customer service," said David Grizzle, Senior Vice President of Corporate Development for Continental Airlines. "We look forward to working together to deliver further benefits to our respective customers."
Manuel Panadero, Air Europa's General Manager, said: "We are really proud to sign an agreement with a company which has achieved the highest quality of customer service, and which considers its employees as an asset in reaching its goals."
http://www.continental.com/dash/buil..._2001-08-07-01
Continental Airlines and Air Europa of Spain announced today that they have agreed to form a cooperative marketing relationship to include codesharing on selected flights and reciprocal frequent flyer program participation.
Subject to government approval, Continental and Air Europa plan to start codesharing effective November 1, 2001 on Air Europa-operated flights between Madrid and Barcelona, Malaga and Palma de Mallorca; and on Continental-operated flights between Madrid and New York/Newark and between New York/Newark and Atlanta, Boston, Chicago/Midway, Chicago/O'Hare, Cleveland, Dallas/Fort Worth, Denver, Detroit, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New Orleans, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Washington/Dulles and San Juan, Puerto Rico. These flights will display the designator codes of both Continental (CO) and Air Europa (UX) and will be marketed by both carriers.
Effective November 1, 2001, members of Continental's frequent flyer program, OnePass, will be able to earn and redeem miles on all Air Europa flights and members of Air Europa's frequent flyer program, Fidelitas, will be able to do the same anywhere on Continental's network.
Continental operates a daily Boeing 767-400ER non-stop flight between Madrid and New York/Newark featuring its award-winning BusinessFirst service.
"We're delighted to sign this alliance agreement with Air Europa, who share our commitment to excellent customer service," said David Grizzle, Senior Vice President of Corporate Development for Continental Airlines. "We look forward to working together to deliver further benefits to our respective customers."
Manuel Panadero, Air Europa's General Manager, said: "We are really proud to sign an agreement with a company which has achieved the highest quality of customer service, and which considers its employees as an asset in reaching its goals."
Aug 18, 2001, 5:49 am
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MAS needs an alliance. They are not doing very well financially. IMHO, greater co-orperation with Wing will be needed.