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Hawaii to welcome Canadian tourists in September!

Old Aug 3, 20, 11:51 am
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Hawaii to welcome Canadian tourists in September!

The article continues, stating that WS will start flying there on Sept 5th from YVR and AC will follow shortly afterwards.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/hawaii-set...235821761.html

Hawaii set to welcome Canadians without quarantine restrictions starting Sept. 1

August 2, 2020, 5:58 PMA winter travel escape may not be top-of-mind during a world-wide pandemic, but the island state of Hawaii says Canadians will be welcomed without quarantine measures starting Sept. 1, 2020.

Hawaii imposed a mandatory 14-day quarantine for all out-of-state travellers at the onset of the pandemic, but the state's Department of Transportation says it will soon be open to "all trans-Pacific travelers."

"Travelers arriving in Hawaii from out-of-state will have the option to get a valid COVID-19 test prior to their arrival, and show proof of a negative test result, to avoid the 14-day quarantine," read a statement from the Department of Transportation....
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Old Aug 3, 20, 12:37 pm
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A whole lotta lack of clarity and contradiction in that article.

This is the actual story about what visitors will be subject to:

https://hidot.hawaii.gov/airports/go...l-september-1/
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Old Aug 3, 20, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by robsaw View Post
A whole lotta lack of clarity and contradiction in that article.

This is the actual story about what visitors will be subject to:

https://hidot.hawaii.gov/airports/go...l-september-1/
IF it happens. And that is a huge IF. I think there is little chance that this won't get pushed back yet again. I don’t think they is any way Ige will remove the quarantine any time soon. For anyone. They are already talking about shutting down interisland travel again.
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Old Aug 3, 20, 1:52 pm
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WestJet has not updated it's schedule beyond September 4. Anything beyond that is still the pre-COVID planned schedule. I would not actually count on HNL or OGG resuming next month.
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Old Aug 3, 20, 9:58 pm
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The test must be a nucleic acid amplification test or NAAT test conducted at a CLIA-certified laboratory.
​​​​​​​Is this test even available in Canada?
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Old Aug 4, 20, 3:37 am
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The true killer for this non-starter is the required 14-day quarantine upon returning to Canada. And a substitute negative covid test will not suffice.
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Old Aug 4, 20, 8:15 am
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Is this test even available in Canada?
Yes of course it is, it is the same technology used for Hiv viral load testing . Just a few references.

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/p...s_guidance.pdf

https://helpstpauls.com/2020/03/24/c...ing-capability
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Old Aug 4, 20, 10:06 am
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Also need to remember that this presumes that Canada and the US agree to reopen their border to travel.
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Old Aug 4, 20, 10:24 am
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Also need to remember that this presumes that Canada and the US agree to reopen their border to travel.
Canadians can enter the US by air. Always have been able to. The land border is closed to all but essential travel in both directions and Americans cannot fly to Canada (with limited exceptions) but Canadians can fly to the US.
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Old Aug 4, 20, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by cirrusdragoon View Post
Yes of course it is, it is the same technology used for Hiv viral load testing . Just a few references.

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/p...s_guidance.pdf

https://helpstpauls.com/2020/03/24/c...ing-capability
According to the CDC website there are no CLIA certified labs in Canada.

https://www.cdc.gov/clia/LabSearch.html#
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Old Aug 4, 20, 11:02 am
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The annoying issue with any jurisdiction relaxing its quarantine requirements for Canadians is Canada's steadfast requirement for 14d quarantine upon return from anywhere ex-Canada, even if you're safer there than Canada. Still nice to have more options though.

But hey, totally okay to criss-cross in/out of hotspots in Canada and travel domestically on 3000km flights sitting next to passengers connecting from ??? and go to work the next day though.

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Is this test even available in Canada?
I think "nucleic acid amplification test" is their complicated way of saying RT-PCR, which makes a bunch of copies of R or D nucleic acids to make enough to see what's there. This is how most (all?) COVID-19 testing is done in Canada.
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Old Aug 4, 20, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by Sopwith View Post
According to the CDC website there are no CLIA certified labs in Canada.

https://www.cdc.gov/clia/LabSearch.html#
  • The test must be a nucleic acid amplification test “OR” NAAT test conducted at a CLIA-certified laboratory.

Canada’s labs do possess the technology to conduct Nucleic acid amplification tests as they have been doing so for many other viruses such as hepatitis

The CLIA are simply:

The Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments (CLIA) of 1988 are United States federal regulatory standards that apply to all clinical laboratory testing performed on humans in the United States. Hence why you will not find a CLIA certified lab in Canada as labs in Canada are governed by the comparable Canadian medical standards.
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Old Aug 4, 20, 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by tecate55 View Post
The annoying issue with any jurisdiction relaxing its quarantine requirements for Canadians is Canada's steadfast requirement for 14d quarantine upon return from anywhere ex-Canada, even if you're safer there than Canada. Still nice to have more options though.

But hey, totally okay to criss-cross in/out of hotspots in Canada and travel domestically on 3000km flights sitting next to passengers connecting from ??? and go to work the next day though.



I think "nucleic acid amplification test" is their complicated way of saying RT-PCR, which makes a bunch of copies of R or D nucleic acids to make enough to see what's there. This is how most (all?) COVID-19 testing is done in Canada.
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With banked time I have almost a month of unused vacation, I'm planning to go to Hawaii for Christmas and then quarantine for two weeks in January if required.
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Old Aug 6, 20, 11:56 pm
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Please consider WS. We would love to have you aboard!

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