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r0gerthat Jun 27, 2019 7:50 am
KL codeshare on WestJet - what to expect?
 
Hi all,

Also posted this on an existing thread in the KL forum, but I'm guessing here's more information available in regards to what to expect from WS :)

I've booked a trip in J on the route AMS-YVR-OGG in December, all on KL flight numbers. During the booking KL said there's no J class available on the last leg (YVR-OGG) so they've charged me for Y (it shows as actual Y on the booking too). Fine, although a long flight... But for the return, they mention this is in world business class (Z), but my research shows there's only 737-800s operating on this route which have no business cabin on board. I'm thinking they should have sold me eco on the return leg (OGG-YVR) instead of business, correct?

More interestingly, I got assigned seats for YVR-OGG in row 4 (Eco) and for OGG-YVR in row 3 (premium eco). Does this premium eco count as business? I guess not... Looking for anyone with experience on this route or similar structure with KL & WS to see what I can expect... https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/imag...lies/smile.gif

Frequentlander Jun 27, 2019 8:10 am
Originally Posted by r0gerthat (Post 31245133)

More interestingly, I got assigned seats for YVR-OGG in row 4 (Eco) and for OGG-YVR in row 3 (premium eco). Does this premium eco count as business? I guess not... Looking for anyone with experience on this route or similar structure with KL & WS to see what I can expect... https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/imag...lies/smile.gif
Premium Eco is not business. You will get a standard Eco seat (3+3). The middle seat of the three is blocked out and the legroom s very good. Food and drink is included. The food quality is (to be generous) variable. This level of service is slated to be upgraded to "proper" J-class seating (2+2) and many aircraft should have been done by now, but he 737 Max issues means they have had no spare aircraft to allow them to take some out to do the refurb.

cirrusdragoon Jun 27, 2019 10:09 am
As of June 26, full network implementation has been completed with the new W premium economy onboard catering product


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...319e75bab.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6c727ffcd.jpeg

seating configuration will vary still as cabin is refitted with new wider 2x2 seats. It will either be 3x3 with middle seat blocked or 2x2.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c7190b139a.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2259867d0a.jpg

Symmetre Jun 27, 2019 2:14 pm
With the 737 Max issue I forget where WS is with reconfiguring the NG aircraft with proper J seats. Possible this ac could be a 738 with the new bus class seats? Can anyone from WS provide an update?

cirrusdragoon Jun 27, 2019 2:34 pm
Originally Posted by Symmetre (Post 31246454)
With the 737 Max issue I forget where WS is with reconfiguring the NG aircraft with proper J seats. Possible this ac could be a 738 with the new bus class seats? Can anyone from WS provide an update?
no that photo was of a 737-600 reconfigured ,also from my source , whole fleet is expected to be complete by 4th quarter 2020. The -600 fleet by dec 2019, the -800 fleet by march 2020 and the -700 fleet complete by dec 2020.

YXUFlyboy Jun 27, 2019 9:22 pm
Even with MAX grounding? MAXes are done.

r0gerthat Jun 28, 2019 1:20 am
Thanks everyone, that looks promising. Apparently the plane on the way to OGG has not been equipped with the 2x2 seating, but the one back is. But the flight is not until December, so we'll see what we actually get :)

colonius Jun 28, 2019 10:05 am
I would agree that the WS Premium product is not truly J class, but intra-European J class is often worse than the WS Premium product. Note that Premium does not include lounge access.

WJter Jun 29, 2019 7:49 am
Originally Posted by Symmetre (Post 31246454)
With the 737 Max issue I forget where WS is with reconfiguring the NG aircraft with proper J seats. Possible this ac could be a 738 with the new bus class seats? Can anyone from WS provide an update?
Currently only 5 NGs have the new seating & cabin configuration (Tails 601,803,806,813 & 852)

arf04 Jul 1, 2019 7:04 pm
Originally Posted by colonius (Post 31249123)
I would agree that the WS Premium product is not truly J class, but intra-European J class is often worse than the WS Premium product. Note that Premium does not include lounge access.
We the chance to ride in one of the 737-600s that has been converted recently and it was very nice. It’s not as plush as AC’s business class, but I wouldn’t say it’s inferior. The FAs and GAs were very excited about the aircraft (a bunch of GAs actually came down the bridge to have a look, which was amusing). Service was excellent. We connected onto a 737-700 in the old config and it was noticeably less comfortable, which is what we expected, but it was interesting to see the big difference between the two. Service was terrible. We got one drink, an offer of food (which we declined) and that was it. No further offers of refills, etc. people had to go and ask the FA, who was sitting in the galley playing a game on his phone. It’s sad to see such big swings in service levels from one flight to the next...

I’d definitely book the premium seats we experienced on the 736, even at a higher price.


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