EconoFlex to the US
Mar 23, 2019, 9:15 am
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: YYJ
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EconoFlex to the US
I got caught out a couple of weeks ago by EconoFlex when flying to the US. My schedule has been changeable for the last couple of months so I started booking EconoFlex for, well, flexibility. I didn't read read the page on it at WestJet's site so this is my fault.
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/travel...-fares/options
I a nutshell, the "Flex" part doesn't apply to US or International flights, only domestic. So when I went to change my flight I was dinged with a heavy change fee.
With EconoFlex you get:
Overall, shame on me for not reading the details but I've been suckered into paying $100's extra for Flex fares when they were useless. Be smarter than me and avoid them if you're flying to outside of Canada.
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/travel...-fares/options
I a nutshell, the "Flex" part doesn't apply to US or International flights, only domestic. So when I went to change my flight I was dinged with a heavy change fee.
With EconoFlex you get:
- WestJet Rewards earn
- Flight changes or cancellations (exclamation point at site when booking, but no links to anything)
- Standard seat selection
- 1 Checked bag
Overall, shame on me for not reading the details but I've been suckered into paying $100's extra for Flex fares when they were useless. Be smarter than me and avoid them if you're flying to outside of Canada.
Last edited by jkordyback; Mar 23, 2019 at 10:20 am
Mar 23, 2019, 11:03 am
#2
Join Date: Aug 2002
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$25 or $100 is not really a "heavy" fee for an airline (or anything other than something that costs less than $25 or $100 as the case may be). If the fare difference is $91 and the fee is only $25 over 60 days out it still saves you $65 over non flex. I assume the premium fare ($450) quoted is non flex? Or can you get premium flex on this route for only $40 more than econo flex? In which case who would pay $40 less for that much less service?
The shame in this is the horrible way they lay out that page instead of a simple matrix for the change types and the type of fare. It must be 10 pages long and for no reason.
The shame in this is the horrible way they lay out that page instead of a simple matrix for the change types and the type of fare. It must be 10 pages long and for no reason.
Mar 23, 2019, 7:27 pm
#5
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$25 or $100 is not really a "heavy" fee for an airline (or anything other than something that costs less than $25 or $100 as the case may be). If the fare difference is $91 and the fee is only $25 over 60 days out it still saves you $65 over non flex. I assume the premium fare ($450) quoted is non flex? Or can you get premium flex on this route for only $40 more than econo flex? In which case who would pay $40 less for that much less service?
The shame in this is the horrible way they lay out that page instead of a simple matrix for the change types and the type of fare. It must be 10 pages long and for no reason.
The shame in this is the horrible way they lay out that page instead of a simple matrix for the change types and the type of fare. It must be 10 pages long and for no reason.
I do agree that the layout is nuts. ;-)
Mar 24, 2019, 11:42 pm
#6
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Hmm, last year on a standard economy fare flight from LGA-YYZ, I got to the airport earlier. Not only did they put me on an earlier flight, they put me in Plus! At no charge! As a gold customer. Really strange the changes we have seen so far this year. Not sure the flex fare is worth the extra $$$!
Mar 25, 2019, 1:03 pm
#7
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Canada
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I have been denied upgrade on 4 trips over last month to Premium even when there were plenty of empty seats at departure. I was told to pay for it if I wanted the seat even though I have already paid for it by buying the EconoFlex fare. The supposed benefit of upgrade has become a lottery with WJ holding all the cards.
Mar 25, 2019, 1:19 pm
#8
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I have been denied upgrade on 4 trips over last month to Premium even when there were plenty of empty seats at departure. I was told to pay for it if I wanted the seat even though I have already paid for it by buying the EconoFlex fare. The supposed benefit of upgrade has become a lottery with WJ holding all the cards.
Mar 25, 2019, 9:55 pm
#9
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I have been denied upgrade on 4 trips over last month to Premium even when there were plenty of empty seats at departure. I was told to pay for it if I wanted the seat even though I have already paid for it by buying the EconoFlex fare. The supposed benefit of upgrade has become a lottery with WJ holding all the cards.
Which is rather odd because on a flight from DEN-YYC this past January I was on a EconoFlex fare and got automagically upgraded to Plus at T-30 hours! But I had to call the platinum line to get myself upgraded for the YYC-DEN segment a few days prior after explaining the absurdity of paying extra for an EconoFlex fare when I could have booked the Economy fare and paid the same amount of $$$ to upgrade at T-48. Is there something "sacred" about the flights to/from USA?
Mar 26, 2019, 6:57 pm
#11
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Yes, it's a great benefit, you can call between T-48 and T-24 to secure your upgrade before the regular public has access to the plus seats. But it would be really nice if the automatic upgrades would be more consistent.