What is Westjet's policy (tariff) on hidden city ticketing?
May 30, 2017, 12:19 am
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What is Westjet's policy (tariff) on hidden city ticketing?
Hi,
Im not sure if this is the right forum category...
So I'm trying to find out if Westjet has a policy (tariff) on hidden city ticketing. Do they expressly prohibit it?
I went through the Westjet tariffs and tried searching with keywords but could not find anything. The closest thing I found was a policy on them cancelling the remaining legs of a multi-segment or RT flight and the forfeit of fees for a No-show.
In contrast, Air Canada's domestic tariff expressly says that hidden city ticketing is not allowed.
Can anyone comment on Westjet?
P.S. I'm not worried about luggage as I would do carry-on only.
Thanks.
Im not sure if this is the right forum category...
So I'm trying to find out if Westjet has a policy (tariff) on hidden city ticketing. Do they expressly prohibit it?
I went through the Westjet tariffs and tried searching with keywords but could not find anything. The closest thing I found was a policy on them cancelling the remaining legs of a multi-segment or RT flight and the forfeit of fees for a No-show.
In contrast, Air Canada's domestic tariff expressly says that hidden city ticketing is not allowed.
Can anyone comment on Westjet?
P.S. I'm not worried about luggage as I would do carry-on only.
Thanks.
Last edited by darkeningeyecircles; May 30, 2017 at 5:07 pm
May 30, 2017, 7:41 am
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As you have found, hidden city ticketing is treated as a no-show. All remaining segments on an itinerary will be cancelled (including any return segments) and any checked baggage will be at the destination shown on the ticket.
May 30, 2017, 10:33 am
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I have to imagine a lot of people do this to YYZ, when I flew to Atlanta a few months ago my fare for YYC-YYZ-ATL was almost incomprehensibly cheap, under $200.
Flying just YYC-YYZ the same day would have been more than $500.
Flying just YYC-YYZ the same day would have been more than $500.
May 30, 2017, 12:39 pm
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May 30, 2017, 4:11 pm
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..........which would likely result in a delay for the other passengers on that flight.
May 31, 2017, 6:37 pm
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Jun 4, 2017, 10:01 pm
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From Domestic Tariff:
"7.2.a Air Transport Contract ... shall entitle the passenger to transportation only between the points of Origin and Destination
specified therein..."
In other words, you bought a ticket between two points, the intermediate destination is not a part of the contract unless it is a true booked stopover.
Not sure what the OP is really asking? What will Westjet do IF they discover hidden-city tickeing or asking if it isn't a problem?
I cannot imagine any company providing a policy statement that would even imply that a breach of contract is anything but that - a breach - and that they could go after the passenger for the appicable amount owing.
"7.2.a Air Transport Contract ... shall entitle the passenger to transportation only between the points of Origin and Destination
specified therein..."
In other words, you bought a ticket between two points, the intermediate destination is not a part of the contract unless it is a true booked stopover.
Not sure what the OP is really asking? What will Westjet do IF they discover hidden-city tickeing or asking if it isn't a problem?
I cannot imagine any company providing a policy statement that would even imply that a breach of contract is anything but that - a breach - and that they could go after the passenger for the appicable amount owing.
Feb 21, 2018, 7:21 pm
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You should be able to short check you bags by asking the Customer Service Agent at the airport upon check-in. They won't change your ticket but they usually note your file as a head's up for the connecting flight crew, so they know you won't be showing up.
Officially, you'd be required to pay fare difference and applicable fees to make such a change, but since they can't prevent you from dropping a leg, they won't make it hard for you to short check you bags.
Source: Previous WS employee, these are documented guidelines for agents regarding dropping the last leg(s) of your itinerary.
Officially, you'd be required to pay fare difference and applicable fees to make such a change, but since they can't prevent you from dropping a leg, they won't make it hard for you to short check you bags.
Source: Previous WS employee, these are documented guidelines for agents regarding dropping the last leg(s) of your itinerary.
Feb 21, 2018, 8:46 pm
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Again, that would be a unique policy.
Feb 22, 2018, 9:48 am
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I have short checked my bags when I did this years ago. Now if I do it, I don't check bags. Bear in mind that you often won't get your WS spend/dollars for that segment if you get off early. My success is about 50/50.
Feb 22, 2018, 10:44 am
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Even on legitimate bookings with an overnight connection, they won't do it. What's worse is they are double charging bag fees on such connections, (AA is expressly doing this).
Mar 4, 2018, 5:39 pm
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From Domestic Tariff:
"7.2.a Air Transport Contract ... shall entitle the passenger to transportation only between the points of Origin and Destination
specified therein..."
In other words, you bought a ticket between two points, the intermediate destination is not a part of the contract unless it is a true booked stopover.
"7.2.a Air Transport Contract ... shall entitle the passenger to transportation only between the points of Origin and Destination
specified therein..."
In other words, you bought a ticket between two points, the intermediate destination is not a part of the contract unless it is a true booked stopover.
I don't think any airline has a right to bar you from being in a certain location at a certain time unless you're living in Venezuela.It sounds like you would want to travel with carry-ons only and book each leg as a separate ticket if you were doing this. I rarely see a real price advantages to booking a round-trio all at once aside from change fees.