Westjet to orders 65 737MAX

Old Aug 29, 2013, 8:49 am
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Westjet to orders 65 737MAX

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/westje...113000816.html

WS to orders 65 737MAX. 40 737-8MAX & 25 737-7MAX as well. Can 737-8MAX will fly nonstop YYC-Hawaii or Caribbean?
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Old Aug 29, 2013, 9:55 am
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...efficient-737s

The 737 Max will decrease fuel burn and carbon dioxide emissions by 13 percent compared with the most efficient single-aisle jets currently on the market, Calgary-based WestJet, Canada’s second-largest carrier, said in a statement today.

As oil prices touch five-year highs this week, WestJet Chief Executive Officer Gregg Saretsky is counting on a fuel-efficient fleet as part of a plan to cut expenses by C$100 million ($95 million) by the end of 2015. WestJet’s fuel cost per available seat mile, a measure of efficiency, was 4.5 cents last year, compared to Air Canada (AC/A)’s gauge of 5.3 cents, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
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Originally Posted by N830MH
[url]WS to orders 65 737MAX. 40 737-8MAX & 25 737-7MAX as well. Can 737-8MAX will fly nonstop YYC-Hawaii or Caribbean?
Range is expected to be: ~3600-3800 (depending on whether it's a -7,-8,or-9). YYC-HNL is ~3200 miles and YYC-Carribean is ~3300. So it seems that they could make it (737-7MAX would be the safest range wise)
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Originally Posted by akelkar
Range is expected to be: ~3600-3800 (depending on whether it's a -7,-8,or-9). YYC-HNL is ~3200 miles and YYC-Carribean is ~3300. So it seems that they could make it (737-7MAX would be the safest range wise)
Right! The 737-7MAX has more capabilities, more fuel-efficient, and extra range as well. The 737-7MAX will fly to Caribbean or Central American. Whether if they want to fly.

Otherwise, the 737-8MAX will able fly to Hawaii. It will fly. If they have ETOPS overwater certification.
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Originally Posted by akelkar
Range is expected to be: ~3600-3800 (depending on whether it's a -7,-8,or-9)
YHZ - LGW coming soon to WestJet?
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Originally Posted by gglave
YHZ - LGW coming soon to WestJet?
Oooh, that would be nice!
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Originally Posted by gglave
YHZ - LGW coming soon to WestJet?
Probably, they will consider it. I think the 737-8MAX will able fly to LGW/SNN/DUB/MAN/GLA/BHX/EDI, and as well some European routes. They won't be in LHR. LHR is a slots restricted.
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I believe LGW is a destination that is on the strategic wish-list of the Halifax Intl. Airport Authority (HIAA). And airline that starts scheduled service to this destination can earn discounts on the airport fees. But I can't find the list on the new (and generally much improved!) HIAA website.

Amongst other places, Quebec City was on the list, as was Frankfurt (FRA, currently served from May to October).
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I believe LGW is a destination that is on the strategic wish-list of the Halifax Intl. Airport Authority (HIAA). And airline that starts scheduled service to this destination can earn discounts on the airport fees. But I can't find the list on the new (and generally much improved!) HIAA website.

Amongst other places, Quebec City was on the list, as was Frankfurt (FRA, currently served from May to October).
Would there be enough demand?? AC already does the route, you would think Transat would already do the route 1-2x a week during summer if there was enough demand.
Quebec City, Boston would be good encore routes.

One thing is clear though, Westjet see's quite a bit more demand in the marketplace with the buying of all these jets. Will be interesting to see where they are deployed. They still have limited coverage to the US from most airports, so I assume that is where they will start.
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Originally Posted by Swarez
One thing is clear though, Westjet see's quite a bit more demand in the marketplace with the buying of all these jets. Will be interesting to see where they are deployed. They still have limited coverage to the US from most airports, so I assume that is where they will start.
Majority of the 737max order is for fleet renewal, not fleet expansion. The order continues into 2027.

With the deferral of 15 737NGs from 2014-2018 timeframe to 737max with delivery dates post 2018; there is no opportuinity for 737 fleet expansion until atleast 2018. Brings in the possibility that Encore will be the only fleet expansion for the forseable future.
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Originally Posted by Swarez
Would there be enough demand??
I think so, but I don't have any data on it.

AC to LHR is the only year-round direct route from YHZ to Europe (apart from St. Pierre et Miquelon, which is not Europe geographically speaking), and it is not even continental Europe.

DE is making a killing in summer with the route to FRA. It is fully booked, over one month in advance, and there are many Canadians, not only German tourists aboard.

Furthermore, there are few airlines offering reasonable one-way rates across the Atlantic from/to Canada (Condor in summer, Icelandair, and to some extent Air Berlin and Air Transat - did I miss any?). Such an offer would be attractive beyond the core LON-YHZ needs. WestJet is good with partnering, so they could offer connections from LGW to continental Europe with one or several partner airlines, and they can facilitate connections within Canada themselves.

Air Transat used to fly YHZ-LGW in summer. They also stopped YUL/YYZ-VIE although they were earning money there, stating a lack of aircraft as the reason (the previous aircraft was decommissioned), so they might have faced a similar issue on YHZ-LGW.
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Originally Posted by YEG Guy
Majority of the 737max order is for fleet renewal, not fleet expansion. The order continues into 2027.

With the deferral of 15 737NGs from 2014-2018 timeframe to 737max with delivery dates post 2018; there is no opportuinity for 737 fleet expansion until atleast 2018. Brings in the possibility that Encore will be the only fleet expansion for the forseable future.
There will still be fleet expansion, as the order book for WestJet will be 92 aircraft from 2014 until 2027 with 65 737Maxs added, 10 substitutions of 737-800s to replace the 10 existing 737-700s sold to Southwest, and 17 other 737 NGs.

There will potentially be lease returns of older 737-700s as the leases end, but if these don't happen, there will be 17 net new 737 NGs from now until the end of 2017.
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Old Aug 31, 2013, 7:41 am
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Two interesting stat's to note from the articles:

WestJet’s fleet, which is comprised mostly of Boeing 737s, has a mean age of 6.7 years, compared to Air Canada’s average of 12.6 years, the Bloomberg data show.

WestJet, which is tied with JetBlue Airways Corp. for having the youngest fleet in the Americas
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Boeing increases seat capacity of 737 max 7

Boeing will add two more rows, or 12 seats, to the Boeing 737 MAX 7 compared with the 737-700, based on feedback from North American low-cost carriers Southwest Airlines and WestJet.
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What is the range now? Is that 4,000nm or something like that? Any ideas?
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