Restricting Velocity membership

Old Jul 6, 16, 11:38 am
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Restricting Velocity membership

Could someone explain the thinking behind restricting Velocity membership to specific countries?

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Old Jul 7, 16, 10:00 am
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I am not aware they do that - can't see any valid reason really.
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Old Jul 8, 16, 2:17 am
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Originally Posted by Neiltoo View Post
Could someone explain the thinking behind restricting Velocity membership to specific countries?
1 Because they can
2 Because it helps a commercial partner. I suspect the Virgin Group has agreed informally to a regional carve up between Velocity, Virgin Atlantic and Virgin America
3 BA when they were partners on the Kangaroo route denied Executive Club membership to Australian residents, presumably to advantage their partner Qantas

VA is basically an Australian domestic airline; why would a non-resident want to join?
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Old Jul 8, 16, 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by ozstamps View Post
I am not aware they do that - can't see any valid reason really.
They certainly do; I suspect there's a commercial/contractual reason.

https://www.velocityfrequentflyer.co...ns/#membership

5.1.1 An individual is eligible to become a Member if:

(a) they are an individual resident in Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Fiji, Cook Islands, Vanuatu, Tonga, Solomon Islands, Samoa, Christmas Island or Cocos Island;
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Old Jul 8, 16, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by RTWFF View Post
VA is basically an Australian domestic airline; why would a non-resident want to join?
Ive booked enough flights in the next 8 months to get gold (if I could register!) including AKL - RAR which is hardly Australian or regional! So whilst I understand the reasons you give from a Virgin commercial point of view there are many reasons why a non resident could benefit from joining.
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Old Jul 10, 16, 2:26 am
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Of course, there may be quite a few Australian members of the BAEC who have a residential address in Austr[al]ia.

Maybe there's a few Irishmen with a Pacific address ....
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Old Jul 10, 16, 3:35 am
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Originally Posted by Neiltoo View Post
Ive booked enough flights in the next 8 months to get gold (if I could register!) including AKL - RAR which is hardly Australian or regional! So whilst I understand the reasons you give from a Virgin commercial point of view there are many reasons why a non resident could benefit from joining.
Per a previous post it's a non-resident of the South Pacific region who is barred. However (as I knew would happen) you've overlooked my caveat "basically"
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Old Jul 10, 16, 4:59 am
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Per a previous post it's a non-resident of the South Pacific region who is barred. However (as I knew would happen) you've overlooked my caveat "basically"
I'm sorry if I disappointed you but also pleased that I proved you right.
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Old Jul 10, 16, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by RTWFF View Post
VA is basically an Australian domestic airline; why would a non-resident want to join?
They fly to many international destinations.. and they're joint venture partners with Delta.

Restricting Velocity membership is just stupid.
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Old Jul 12, 16, 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by serfty View Post
They certainly do; I suspect there's a commercial/contractual reason.

https://www.velocityfrequentflyer.co...ns/#membership
Interesting that the rules are "An individual is eligible to become a Member" rather than "... remain a Member".
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Old Jul 13, 16, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by keitherson View Post
They fly to many international destinations.. and they're joint venture partners with Delta.
Realists regard NZ as a domestic destination and that's reflected in restricting membership to the South Pacific. Besides that there's Abu Dhabi and Los Angeles and ... ??? Joint venture partnerships in this context are irrelevant except for those already resident in the South Pacific. If you want to accumulate international miles, join an international carrier's FF scheme
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In my case, it would've been a question of whether to choose to earn miles on VA or VS for my DL flights. VS might still have won (the 100% bonus on DL would have been hard to pass up), but VA would've probably had a serious claim on it for the purposes of racking up points for a LAX-SYD/BNE award. Still, Platinum on VA would require at most 25 legs on DL in F (I can see a case for it being in the mid-teens, depending on the mix of flights).
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Old Jul 13, 16, 4:25 pm
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... don't forget the required 8 flights on VA flight numbers ... (i.e. VA Marketed).

That takes it down to 23 DL First/Business class flights.
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Old Aug 23, 16, 7:48 am
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It is due to leagal reasons with the Virgin brand
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Old Aug 30, 16, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by keitherson View Post
They fly to many international destinations.. and they're joint venture partners with Delta.

Restricting Velocity membership is just stupid.
As a member, I can say VA does not fly to many international destinations beyond the country list they accept as members. Pretty much just two.

And as you said they are partners with Delta and many other airlines, so you can earn points and status on those partners if you aren't able to become a Velocity member.

Velocity is a pretty good program, but I can't see why anyone would be upset they can't join if they don't live in the South Pacific.
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