Virgin Atlantic cockpit crew sleep thru flight
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Virgin Atlantic cockpit crew sleep thru flight
I knew the Virgin folks were pretty laid back, but really!
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/26/travel...sleep-cockpit/
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/26/travel...sleep-cockpit/
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Tea break? Unless you expect them to work for 14 hours without a break?
I'd rather they had lots of little naps than try to deal with an emergency whist suffering exhaustion from lack of rest.
I'd rather they had lots of little naps than try to deal with an emergency whist suffering exhaustion from lack of rest.
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Does sound as if they were knackered so I can understand why they'd nod off.
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This isn't the first time this has happened, I have trawled the web but can't find anything.....however....
I think it was 2010 (give or take a year). We were in NYC for Halloween ...a day or so before there had been an incident where both pilot and first officer were asleep on duty.
IIRC they overshot the airport. The reason I remember is because at the Halloween party some wag came dressed as an airline pilot complete with alarm clock !
It was a major airline, or subsidiary of on a regional route, I can hazard a guess but don't want to in case I haven't remembered the airline correctly
I think it was 2010 (give or take a year). We were in NYC for Halloween ...a day or so before there had been an incident where both pilot and first officer were asleep on duty.
IIRC they overshot the airport. The reason I remember is because at the Halloween party some wag came dressed as an airline pilot complete with alarm clock !
It was a major airline, or subsidiary of on a regional route, I can hazard a guess but don't want to in case I haven't remembered the airline correctly
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For some reason it reminds me of these squawks.
This one might be applicable to BA at the moment:
Tower: "Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7."
Eastern 702: "Tower, Eastern 702 switching to Departure ... by the way, as we lifted off, we saw some kind of dead animal on the far end of the runway."
Tower: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7; did you copy the report from Eastern?"
Continental 635: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff and yes, we copied Eastern and we've already notified our caterers."
This one might be applicable to BA at the moment:
Tower: "Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7."
Eastern 702: "Tower, Eastern 702 switching to Departure ... by the way, as we lifted off, we saw some kind of dead animal on the far end of the runway."
Tower: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7; did you copy the report from Eastern?"
Continental 635: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff and yes, we copied Eastern and we've already notified our caterers."
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This isn't the first time this has happened, I have trawled the web but can't find anything.....however....
I think it was 2010 (give or take a year). We were in NYC for Halloween ...a day or so before there had been an incident where both pilot and first officer were asleep on duty.
IIRC they overshot the airport. The reason I remember is because at the Halloween party some wag came dressed as an airline pilot complete with alarm clock !
It was a major airline, or subsidiary of on a regional route, I can hazard a guess but don't want to in case I haven't remembered the airline correctly
I think it was 2010 (give or take a year). We were in NYC for Halloween ...a day or so before there had been an incident where both pilot and first officer were asleep on duty.
IIRC they overshot the airport. The reason I remember is because at the Halloween party some wag came dressed as an airline pilot complete with alarm clock !
It was a major airline, or subsidiary of on a regional route, I can hazard a guess but don't want to in case I haven't remembered the airline correctly
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CAA now confirms both pilots were NOT asleep at the same time
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...OT-asleep.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...OT-asleep.html
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They weren't sleeping in that case. They were playing with their laptops. http://minnesota.publicradio.org/dis...-investigation
When it was first reported I think there must have been some speculation, I do remember them scrambling/ consider scrambling some sort of military intercept as they were getting no response from the cockpit.
I do think that the current incident has a lot to do with British Pilots and the move to adhere to European regulations, which would mean more hours.
My vote ( if I had one ) would be to stick with current British regulations, making Pilots work for longer seems not to be in the passenger's, ie:ME, best interests.