50% rebate on reward flights

Old Oct 28, 22, 2:13 am
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50% rebate on reward flights

https://www.headforpoints.com/2022/1...t-redemptions/

main T&Cs are

Book by midnight 7th November for flights up to 25th March 2023

US and Caribbean only.

VS metal only with a VS flight number on the booking.

All cabins included.

Must have a Virgin red account. But if you don’t there is a 500 point bonus for signing up.

Rebate given after flying,
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Old Oct 28, 22, 4:15 am
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Is the rebate also issued when booking for someone else? I’m assuming it’s the redeeming FC account, as long as it’s linked to Virgin Red, that’s the requisite, and it doesn’t matter as to the name of the award booking.
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Old Oct 28, 22, 1:49 pm
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Is the VS IT even capable of policing a promotion like this?
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Old Oct 28, 22, 2:40 pm
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Is the VS IT even capable of policing a promotion like this?
They ran the same promo through the pandemic (although obviously not geographically limited).
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Old Oct 28, 22, 4:30 pm
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$2,041 fee for a flight LAX to London in Upper Class.
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Old Oct 29, 22, 10:32 am
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$2,041 fee for a flight LAX to London in Upper Class.
Yep the last time I compared the surcharges a few weeks back VS has now exceed BA. If you book two one-ways you will reduce the surcharges somewhat since your return will be booked at the ex-UK rates vs the more usurious stick it to folks departing the US rate. I basically won't use VS ex-US at this point (at least on VS points) even with half off points it doesn't make sense (I also hold a number of BoA CC free upgrade certs which allows me to book a cabin and upgrade to the next higher cabin only paying the additional cash surcharges of course and won't use those ex-US either but will from other countries--the good news is the VS ones are more flexible in this regard than the BA certs). From the UK it can still make sense to fly VS given the somewhat lower surcharges and the fact that ex-EU surcharges are higher on other carriers as well if not to the same extent as VS and BA. Basically with the BoA CC cert I can get UC from LHR to east coast of US for 17,500 points (premium econ points requirement) + $731.65 in surcharges (J rate). As an alternative AF from CDG is 70,000 points + $338.35.. So basically I am looking at paying $393.30 more in cash but saving 52,500 in points. That is like buying points for 7/10 of a cent which isn't bad (also VS points are much easier for me to earn than AF too). A decent if not incredible deal. The math for the 50% of deal here is closer to paying 1.7 cent per point which is a poor value in my book. So even with this deal if you have a choice of carriers to redeem on this may still be poor deal. However if you are points constrained it may well represent a good deal compared to cash.
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Old Nov 2, 22, 10:26 am
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I'm a complete newbie to Flying Club. Quick question: can I use the 50% rebate in conjunction with an upgrade voucher? I need to go to the US in February (into JFK and back from IAD or vice-versa) and quite fancy booking a seat in premium using points and then upgrading to upper class using my voucher. Is that possible? Help!
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Old Nov 2, 22, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Guzzler View Post
I'm a complete newbie to Flying Club. Quick question: can I use the 50% rebate in conjunction with an upgrade voucher? I need to go to the US in February (into JFK and back from IAD or vice-versa) and quite fancy booking a seat in premium using points and then upgrading to upper class using my voucher. Is that possible? Help!
You are probably going to have to call and ask. This is sort of an edge case. That said when I called to book a flight using the upgrade voucher this weekend the CSR intimated he thought it would stack except my flight was outside of the offer period. Also make sure they book your flight as a roundtrip open jaw else you will get hit with the higher ex-US surcharges on your return leg. In my experience the VS CSRs are better than the average airline CSR and usually know what they are talking about and doing.
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Old Nov 2, 22, 1:12 pm
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Have we found out if making an award booking for someone else qualifies? I assume it’s linked to the redeeming account, however like wise the third party will have their Flying Club no. (linked to their own Virgin Red) on the ticket to collect TP’s.
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Old Nov 2, 22, 3:38 pm
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Chase has a current 30% bonus for transferring ultimate rewards to flying club. I'm looking at a 230,000 + $4040 redemption for 2 UC tickets (LAX-LON-ATL).

Cash value of these tickets is in the $7300 range for two.

I redeem 177,000 UR, get 230100 FC, rebated 115,000 after flight. Net miles redeemed for 2 UC tickets is 62000.

On AA this redeption would be 230,000 + $2760 (nonstop on BA).

On UA 240,000 + $730 (with awful connections).

So essentially I'm paying an extra $1300/3300 in fees to save 168,000 AA or 178,000 UA miles, buying them for 7/10 of a cent compared to AA or 1.3 cpm compared to UA.

Alternatively, vs cash, I'm redeeming 62,000 miles to save $3260, a redemption at 5.3 cpm, which is a great redemption rate for UR in my book (originally earned at 3x/dollar for travel purchases, yielding an astonishing 15.8% rebate on original purchase). I think this is a pretty good promotion when combined with the current chase promo.
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Old Nov 2, 22, 5:36 pm
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Originally Posted by oopsz View Post
Chase has a current 30% bonus for transferring ultimate rewards to flying club. I'm looking at a 230,000 + $4040 redemption for 2 UC tickets (LAX-LON-ATL).

Cash value of these tickets is in the $7300 range for two.

I redeem 177,000 UR, get 230100 FC, rebated 115,000 after flight. Net miles redeemed for 2 UC tickets is 62000.

On AA this redeption would be 230,000 + $2760 (nonstop on BA).

On UA 240,000 + $730 (with awful connections).

So essentially I'm paying an extra $1300/3300 in fees to save 168,000 AA or 178,000 UA miles, buying them for 7/10 of a cent compared to AA or 1.3 cpm compared to UA.

Alternatively, vs cash, I'm redeeming 62,000 miles to save $3260, a redemption at 5.3 cpm, which is a great redemption rate for UR in my book (originally earned at 3x/dollar for travel purchases, yielding an astonishing 15.8% rebate on original purchase). I think this is a pretty good promotion when combined with the current chase promo.
No decent routings on Star Alliance or SkyTeam? Chase currently has a 30% bonus to Aeroplan right now. But yeah if those are your only options then not a bad deal. Since you are ex-US booking as two one-ways vs roundtrip would lower your surcharges on the return (this applies to BA as well). Though if you have to cancel it would double your cancellation fee.
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Old Nov 3, 22, 8:23 am
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You are probably going to have to call and ask. This is sort of an edge case. That said when I called to book a flight using the upgrade voucher this weekend the CSR intimated he thought it would stack except my flight was outside of the offer period. Also make sure they book your flight as a roundtrip open jaw else you will get hit with the higher ex-US surcharges on your return leg. In my experience the VS CSRs are better than the average airline CSR and usually know what they are talking about and doing.
I called yesterday evening and all sorted in a matter of minutes. Booked premium under the offer and then used voucher to upgrade to upper class. Looking forward to it. Taxes and charges came in at 900, which is roughly what I was expecting - although I didn't check they booked as an open-jaw like you said as I only just saw this.
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Old Nov 3, 22, 3:35 pm
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Have we found out if making an award booking for someone else qualifies? I assume it’s linked to the redeeming account, however like wise the third party will have their Flying Club no. (linked to their own Virgin Red) on the ticket to collect TP’s.
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Old Nov 3, 22, 4:37 pm
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Have we found out if making an award booking for someone else qualifies? I assume its linked to the redeeming account, however like wise the third party will have their Flying Club no. (linked to their own Virgin Red) on the ticket to collect TPs.
You don't seem to be getting an answer here so maybe call and ask. The CSRs are pretty good.
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Old Nov 3, 22, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by oopsz View Post
Chase has a current 30% bonus for transferring ultimate rewards to flying club. I'm looking at a 230,000 + $4040 redemption for 2 UC tickets (LAX-LON-ATL).

Cash value of these tickets is in the $7300 range for two.

I redeem 177,000 UR, get 230100 FC, rebated 115,000 after flight. Net miles redeemed for 2 UC tickets is 62000.

On AA this redeption would be 230,000 + $2760 (nonstop on BA).

On UA 240,000 + $730 (with awful connections).

So essentially I'm paying an extra $1300/3300 in fees to save 168,000 AA or 178,000 UA miles, buying them for 7/10 of a cent compared to AA or 1.3 cpm compared to UA.

Alternatively, vs cash, I'm redeeming 62,000 miles to save $3260, a redemption at 5.3 cpm, which is a great redemption rate for UR in my book (originally earned at 3x/dollar for travel purchases, yielding an astonishing 15.8% rebate on original purchase). I think this is a pretty good promotion when combined with the current chase promo.
If you want to save on the fees ex-US booking LAX-LHR on VS through AF/KL is 106,500 miles + $188.30 instead... (although they don't seem to show the full VS availability)
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