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July 20th Virgin Atlantic starting up from LHR

July 20th Virgin Atlantic starting up from LHR

Old Jun 4, 20, 9:55 am
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July 20th Virgin Atlantic starting up from LHR

VS are go

MCO, JFK and LAX Shanghai and Hong Kong to start with

Must wear Masks
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and a restricted food and drinks menu (for your safety and not to cheapen the product obvs!)
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Old Jun 4, 20, 10:08 am
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Is this a sign of US travel restrictions being eased? I can't believe MCO is business/cargo destination.
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Old Jun 4, 20, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by pc32435 View Post
Is this a sign of US travel restrictions being eased? I can't believe MCO is business/cargo destination.
Iím hoping so, was having a conversation with someone earlier about UK quarantine, as much as i hate it and hope it wont last, in the short term may give the US the reassurance that the UK are being cautious enough to allow the travel ban to be lifted. Maybe Iím being too optimistic, but surely theyíve had conversations or starting up would be futile.
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Old Jun 4, 20, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by pc32435 View Post
Is this a sign of US travel restrictions being eased? I can't believe MCO is business/cargo destination.
Wondering the same. Perhaps they also have info that Schengen countries are gonna lift it for US travellers?
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Old Jun 4, 20, 10:45 am
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Originally Posted by Lloydcov View Post
Iím hoping so, was having a conversation with someone earlier about UK quarantine, as much as i hate it and hope it wont last, in the short term may give the US the reassurance that the UK are being cautious enough to allow the travel ban to be lifted. Maybe Iím being too optimistic, but surely theyíve had conversations or starting up would be futile.
The 2 week quarentaine? Nobody takes that serious. They dont even have police/staff to keep regular safety let alone go to properties/hotels etc to see if people are in quarentaine. What if your sleeping when they ringing? Or in the garden and dont hear doorbell? So many loops lol. I am going back to the UK next week and def not gonna be sitting inside for 2 weeks straight cause the UK gov comes randomly with some wild plan 4 months late.
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Old Jun 4, 20, 11:08 am
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The 2 week quarentaine? Nobody takes that serious. They dont even have police/staff to keep regular safety let alone go to properties/hotels etc to see if people are in quarentaine. What if your sleeping when they ringing? Or in the garden and dont hear doorbell? So many loops lol. I am going back to the UK next week and def not gonna be sitting inside for 2 weeks straight cause the UK gov comes randomly with some wild plan 4 months late.
I couldnít agree more, the policy has more holes than Swiss cheese. Iíd also ignore it.
However, if people are put off booking because of it, airlines wont fill planes enough to fly, thats the issue currently.
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Old Jun 4, 20, 3:48 pm
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MCO relaunch

Suspect MCO has been launched, as whilst the flights are not cash positive (from likely forecasted loads) they help a lot with liquidity which given VS's financial situation, combined with the low oil price and planes sitting on the ground are worth running. Remember if the LON-MCO flights are running; VS claims there is no obligation to refund customers cancelling by choice in their eyes. VS during the summer peak op'd 3x LGW-MCO services with a 747. Rebook all these passengers onto a single 787; you may get an OK load turn up (Particuarly with some bookings from the Manchester load transferring down) but save a very good amount of extra liquidity from leaving the airline and you may find its in VS's financial interest to start the service up again.

VS have told the travel trade that refunds on this route will be in line with ticket rules, so non refundable tickets will only qualify for rebooking on this route and not a cash refund. Sure you will get some pax that argue for a refund due to the airport change, but in all odds, you'll probably save off 500 pax (on non-refundable tkts) a day that can't be borthered fighting after a while & will rebook for a later date - keeping the revenue within the airline.

Could all be wrong about this. All views from an 'armchair CEO'. Working in the infrastructure PE world so could get their motives completely wrong here. But this is the FAQ that I found:


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Your Customer is due to travel to Orlando on 20th July but does not want to go. Can they have a refund?
Virgin Atlantic understands the difficulties that the Covid-19 crisis poses to our customers with upcoming travel plans and is offering as much flexibility as possible. Weíre helping customers with upcoming travel plans to rebook on an alternative date free-of-charge, with the option to change their destination, and even change the names on the booking, all the way until 30th September 2022. Where a passenger opts not to travel due to the Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO) advice or 14-day quarantine rules, if the flight is still operating, then the Conditions of Carriage, which are published on the website here, provide re-booking as the available option. Refunds continue to be permitted as per fare rules on flexible and fully refundable tickets and should be submitted though the usual channels, such as BSP link.

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Old Jun 4, 20, 10:50 pm
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How does the return of flights to the US square with the current blanket ban on visitors / nationals from the UK? Are these repatriation flights only, or have I misunderstood?
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Old Jun 5, 20, 1:19 pm
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There we go. Hope on the horizon! https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/eus-...y-july/1866566
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Old Jul 3, 20, 1:07 pm
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With restrictions both ways, where are the passengers coming from?
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Old Jul 3, 20, 1:15 pm
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With restrictions both ways, where are the passengers coming from?
Obviously waiting for those restrictions to be lifted.
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Old Jul 5, 20, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by itisme View Post
The 2 week quarentaine? Nobody takes that serious. They dont even have police/staff to keep regular safety let alone go to properties/hotels etc to see if people are in quarentaine. What if your sleeping when they ringing? Or in the garden and dont hear doorbell? So many loops lol. I am going back to the UK next week and def not gonna be sitting inside for 2 weeks straight cause the UK gov comes randomly with some wild plan 4 months late.
Originally Posted by Lloydcov View Post
I couldnít agree more, the policy has more holes than Swiss cheese. Iíd also ignore it.
However, if people are put off booking because of it, airlines wont fill planes enough to fly, thats the issue currently.
Wow, not quite sure how to respond to this. I do hope you are both kidding. If not, then you are both crass and selfish to indicate that you would happily put others at risk unnecessarily.

Whilst the policy is far from perfect, if you do ignore it, I sincerely hope that you do not end up causing the death of others through your wilful disregard of your civic duty.
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Old Jul 5, 20, 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by mrow View Post
Wow, not quite sure how to respond to this. I do hope you are both kidding. If not, then you are both crass and selfish to indicate that you would happily put others at risk unnecessarily.

Whilst the policy is far from perfect, if you do ignore it, I sincerely hope that you do not end up causing the death of others through your wilful disregard of your civic duty.
+1 Disgustingly selfish and immoral behaviour.
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Old Jul 6, 20, 10:47 am
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Old Jul 20, 20, 3:57 pm
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Flying the A350 in Upper Class LHR - LAX in August, then a few hours layover, then onward on DL. (essential travel)

Would be great to hear experiences from anyone flying with VS these next couple of weeks.
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