Spending Flying Club Miles on AF-KLM

Old Oct 31, 19, 4:53 am
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Spending Flying Club Miles on AF-KLM

Does anyone know when we will be able to spend our flying club miles on AF-KLM? I'm looking at booking next year's holiday and am hoping I can save on the surcharges by using them out of Europe/ go somewhere outside of Virgin's route network.
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Old Oct 31, 19, 6:33 am
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Why AF? You'd still have hefty surcharges to pay in all likelihood. Yes you save APD, but it is easy to spend the savings just in positioning flights/accommodation

Why not any of the other partners offered by VS?
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Old Oct 31, 19, 6:41 am
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APD alone is not justification for an ex-EU, even in business class.

In reality it is the combination of a significantly lower base fare, combined with the APD saving which makes the all-in fare saving worth the risk, hassle and positioning costs
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Old Nov 1, 19, 3:54 am
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Most likely next year before they launch AFKL rewards. Been heavily delayed due to VGLC divesture and then because DL soon go in a quite period while they wrap up the year. Very, very surprised if anything is launched this year.
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Old Nov 2, 19, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by RedRooibos View Post
Most likely next year before they launch AFKL rewards. Been heavily delayed due to VGLC divesture and then because DL soon go in a quite period while they wrap up the year. Very, very surprised if anything is launched this year.
Yes, it is continually slipping. I was told September (in July), then November (in September) - not sure where it is now. I saw Oli Byers the other week at the Flybe management conference and he was non-committal.

VGLC official launch in next March so it may end up going along with that I suppose.
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Old Feb 3, 20, 6:08 am
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Looks like they've settled on next Thursday: https://corporate.virginatlantic.com...-launched.html
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Old Feb 4, 20, 12:05 am
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Originally Posted by CosmicGirl View Post
Looks like they've settled on next Thursday: https://corporate.virginatlantic.com...-launched.html
Oh good, now I can avoid APD by connecting KL/AF
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Old Feb 4, 20, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by Jma12 View Post
Oh good, now I can avoid APD by connecting KL/AF
The real devil here is YQ/YR. Your wallet will appreciate avoiding that even more...
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Old Feb 12, 20, 4:45 am
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The real devil here is YQ/YR. Your wallet will appreciate avoiding that even more...
The ones charged by VS aren't exactly less.
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Old Feb 12, 20, 4:50 am
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Just looked at some of the routes, HKG-AMS cost 112k in J, and most intra cost 4k in Y and 8 to 10k in J.
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Old Feb 13, 20, 1:27 pm
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Somewhat related, SFO-LHR Upper booked via KLM, 72K plus $200 taxes. 5500 less miles and $4-500 less than booking with Virgin.
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Old Feb 13, 20, 1:31 pm
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Very good overview here https://www.headforpoints.com/
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Old Feb 18, 20, 5:16 am
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Have any particular ‘sweet spots’ need identified yet? I’m guessing they are likely to be with KLM rather than AF. Jamaica and N.Africa seem the obvious ones thus far.
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Old Feb 18, 20, 9:59 am
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Looks like VS doesn't have the same access to the space as AF/KLM. Found space through ExpertFlyer and on AF/KLM but cannot book on VS site. Also what is odd is that if I search for IAD-CDG and CDG-NCE flights were available but not when searching IAD-NCE. Agent on the phone noted there must be a bug in the system somewhere as they should be able to sell the ticket as one and not charge two separate awards.
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Old Feb 18, 20, 2:46 pm
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Early teething problems, hopefully
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