ANA (NH) Redemptions using VS Flying Club points - thread locked Sept 2022
Jan 17, 2020, 5:26 pm
#856
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 18
I'm trying to go to Fukuoka for 2021 for World Champs and flying out of SFO. I'm also hoping to spend some time in Tokyo and Yokohama (Pikachu outbreak is around then) a few days after Worlds.
Currently I have around 175k miles in my Chase account. Would my total miles be around 125k for SFO-NRT-FUK (round trip, F) on VS?
Tentative Itinerary:
August 2: SFO-FUK via NRT.
August 13 FUK-NRT
August 18 NRT-SFO
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BTW: Should I be checking United MileagePlus instead of ANA for award space? I know I'm early, but I'm slowly stalking space.
Currently I have around 175k miles in my Chase account. Would my total miles be around 125k for SFO-NRT-FUK (round trip, F) on VS?
Tentative Itinerary:
August 2: SFO-FUK via NRT.
August 13 FUK-NRT
August 18 NRT-SFO
-
BTW: Should I be checking United MileagePlus instead of ANA for award space? I know I'm early, but I'm slowly stalking space.
Jan 17, 2020, 6:54 pm
#857
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,459
I'm trying to go to Fukuoka for 2021 for World Champs and flying out of SFO. I'm also hoping to spend some time in Tokyo and Yokohama (Pikachu outbreak is around then) a few days after Worlds.
Currently I have around 175k miles in my Chase account. Would my total miles be around 125k for SFO-NRT-FUK (round trip, F) on VS?
Tentative Itinerary:
August 2: SFO-FUK via NRT.
August 13 FUK-NRT
August 18 NRT-SFO
-
BTW: Should I be checking United MileagePlus instead of ANA for award space? I know I'm early, but I'm slowly stalking space.
Currently I have around 175k miles in my Chase account. Would my total miles be around 125k for SFO-NRT-FUK (round trip, F) on VS?
Tentative Itinerary:
August 2: SFO-FUK via NRT.
August 13 FUK-NRT
August 18 NRT-SFO
-
BTW: Should I be checking United MileagePlus instead of ANA for award space? I know I'm early, but I'm slowly stalking space.
Given that you also pay taxes and surcharges, I would just book SFO-TYO with VS and book experience Japan fares for TYO-FUK, or the JAL equivalent.
Jan 17, 2020, 11:49 pm
#858
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 222
Booked NH ORD-NRT roundtrip using VS miles. On VS app, I'm seeing ORD-NRT with seats I selected on ANA site and I see another flight from ORD-HND(without a seat assignment) for the same dates but different times. Should I do something?
Jan 18, 2020, 9:48 pm
#859
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boulder
Programs: AA Plat, CX Silver
Posts: 2,361
I just booked LAX-HND-IAH with the outbound in F and return in J. 102.5k miles and $267.05 in taxes/fees.
I booked via SMS, which was more convenient than calling because I could make dinner while I booked my flights but it took about 2.5 hours. There wasn't much back-and-forth—maybe 15 messages total—just took the agent 10-20 minutes to respond each time.
I booked via SMS, which was more convenient than calling because I could make dinner while I booked my flights but it took about 2.5 hours. There wasn't much back-and-forth—maybe 15 messages total—just took the agent 10-20 minutes to respond each time.
Jan 19, 2020, 10:13 am
#860
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SF, Japan, YYG
Programs: ANA Pt
Posts: 392
I do SMS award booking and changes all the time now; took about 25 min total yesterday. Easier to ensure the information supplied is accurately conveyed, and more convenient than voice calls
Jan 19, 2020, 10:17 am
#861
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boulder
Programs: AA Plat, CX Silver
Posts: 2,361
My first message fed them exact dates and flight numbers. Responses on their end just took forever.
Jan 19, 2020, 4:23 pm
#862
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,459
SMS responses have always been very fast for me.
Jan 20, 2020, 5:56 pm
#863
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 222
Originally booked ORD-NRT. Kept checking JFK availability because it's closer. Couldn't believe my eyes when there was award space both ways albeit a few days different from my original trip. Called VS line and the CSR found space for the new origination. Asked him to cancel the original itinerary and book the new one. Cost was $50. After hanging up, I neither got an e-mail nor saw the booking on the website. Called back to confirm and they say they'll send e-mail again. Nothing. Called yet again, and this time the CSR noticed the payment info wasn't right. Gave payment info and voila! E-mail and itinerary both showed up. Took a bit but I ultimately got the flight I wanted in short notice.
Jan 21, 2020, 4:28 pm
#864
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, UA Silver
Posts: 2,272
Thinking about trying to book something like JFK-Tokyo and then back to London in F & J. Is it better to do this type of booking with Flying club points or ANA or does it not make a difference assuming you aren't getting the bonus transfer to Flying Club?
Jan 22, 2020, 1:19 am
#865
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SAN, LAX
Programs: JMB, Bonvoy, Hyatt
Posts: 237
It's unlikely VS will ticket such a ticket from here on out. It's treated as a one-way w/ 2 segments and hence does not follow VS rules for ANA partner awards.
As for ANA, having an "open jaw" starting and ending in different zones or countries is explicitly not allowed in ANA rules.
As for ANA, having an "open jaw" starting and ending in different zones or countries is explicitly not allowed in ANA rules.
Jan 22, 2020, 7:54 pm
#866
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, UA Silver
Posts: 2,272
It's unlikely VS will ticket such a ticket from here on out. It's treated as a one-way w/ 2 segments and hence does not follow VS rules for ANA partner awards.
As for ANA, having an "open jaw" starting and ending in different zones or countries is explicitly not allowed in ANA rules.
As for ANA, having an "open jaw" starting and ending in different zones or countries is explicitly not allowed in ANA rules.
Jan 23, 2020, 5:41 am
#867
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SAN, LAX
Programs: JMB, Bonvoy, Hyatt
Posts: 237
VS never changed the rule, just that they're much more diligently enforcing it now. They layout the award chart assuming people will interpret it reasonably such that EU/Mexico are not in the same zone (nor US West and Austraila). They allowed open jaws across zones (and sounds like they still do) as long as it's reasonable (US East and West).
The wall you'll run into isn't really VS per se, it's VS no longer willing to book 2 segment awards on ANA that their partner would not consider roundtrips and get into trouble with ANA.
The wall you'll run into isn't really VS per se, it's VS no longer willing to book 2 segment awards on ANA that their partner would not consider roundtrips and get into trouble with ANA.
Jan 24, 2020, 9:39 am
#868
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SAN, LAX
Programs: JMB, Bonvoy, Hyatt
Posts: 237
Not sure if this needs to go over to the VA forum or not but we will see.
If I do a R/T JFK-TYO, find JFK-TYO in economy and TYO-JFK in first, I can switch the JFK-TYO portion of the flight to business or first when it becomes available a week or two out?
Can I do this when I do the flight with VA points?
Would I contact ANA or VA to make the change? Thanks.
If I do a R/T JFK-TYO, find JFK-TYO in economy and TYO-JFK in first, I can switch the JFK-TYO portion of the flight to business or first when it becomes available a week or two out?
Can I do this when I do the flight with VA points?
Would I contact ANA or VA to make the change? Thanks.
Jan 24, 2020, 2:43 pm
#869
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 2
Any Advice? Looking to Book Business or First on August 20-24th (2020) from JFK - TYO, and Returning Sept 5-9th. (2020) I have a bunch of Chase and AMEX miles. When I look at the seat map looks like the flight is pretty empty but on United Im not seeing any redemption open yet.
Jan 24, 2020, 3:34 pm
#870
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sunny AZ
Programs: HH Diamond, Sixt Platinum, IHG Spire Ambassador, Marriott/SPG Gold .....
Posts: 3,208
Any Advice? Looking to Book Business or First on August 20-24th (2020) from JFK - TYO, and Returning Sept 5-9th. (2020) I have a bunch of Chase and AMEX miles. When I look at the seat map looks like the flight is pretty empty but on United Im not seeing any redemption open yet.