ANA (NH) Redemptions using VS Flying Club points - thread locked Sept 2022
#1756
Join Date: Jun 2020
Programs: n/a
Posts: 62
Tried to rebook my march 2022 flight to a feb 2023 flight. I ran into a couple weird errors.
First i saw flights on dates in feb using Aeroplan one F and one J. the rep stated those cabins for those dates were unavailable on her end. United website also showed these were unavailable
Then i used united to search tickets from IAD to japan and saw a couple of J tickets available. the rep also said those dates were unavailable. united showed availability for 2 J tickets a bunch of dates in feb 2023. I just thought it was odd.
the rep then suggested i fill out a travel voucher so I just went ahead and did that. Did this happen to anyone else?
First i saw flights on dates in feb using Aeroplan one F and one J. the rep stated those cabins for those dates were unavailable on her end. United website also showed these were unavailable
Then i used united to search tickets from IAD to japan and saw a couple of J tickets available. the rep also said those dates were unavailable. united showed availability for 2 J tickets a bunch of dates in feb 2023. I just thought it was odd.
the rep then suggested i fill out a travel voucher so I just went ahead and did that. Did this happen to anyone else?
#1757
Join Date: Jun 2020
Programs: n/a
Posts: 62
Also, my wife and i will be looking to travel with our infant who could be 1.5 years old when we actually rebook.
Since two F's are nearly impossible , how are the J seat's in the 787 flights? are they just lay down seats like the J seats in 777?
wondering if i should try and book a 1 J and 1 F initially then find and pay one of those sites that send you alerts for the 2nd F mid year. or just be happy with the 2 J;s (if i even get those too)
Since two F's are nearly impossible , how are the J seat's in the 787 flights? are they just lay down seats like the J seats in 777?
wondering if i should try and book a 1 J and 1 F initially then find and pay one of those sites that send you alerts for the 2nd F mid year. or just be happy with the 2 J;s (if i even get those too)
#1758
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,468
Tried to rebook my march 2022 flight to a feb 2023 flight. I ran into a couple weird errors.
First i saw flights on dates in feb using Aeroplan one F and one J. the rep stated those cabins for those dates were unavailable on her end. United website also showed these were unavailable
Then i used united to search tickets from IAD to japan and saw a couple of J tickets available. the rep also said those dates were unavailable. united showed availability for 2 J tickets a bunch of dates in feb 2023. I just thought it was odd.
the rep then suggested i fill out a travel voucher so I just went ahead and did that. Did this happen to anyone else?
First i saw flights on dates in feb using Aeroplan one F and one J. the rep stated those cabins for those dates were unavailable on her end. United website also showed these were unavailable
Then i used united to search tickets from IAD to japan and saw a couple of J tickets available. the rep also said those dates were unavailable. united showed availability for 2 J tickets a bunch of dates in feb 2023. I just thought it was odd.
the rep then suggested i fill out a travel voucher so I just went ahead and did that. Did this happen to anyone else?
#1759
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: New York
Posts: 183
Has anyone heard of ANA limiting VS availability from JFK to one flight? I saw availability on ANA for J on the evening flight out of JFK. Called vs 2x and both times they said ana is limiting them to just the morning flight for awards (no availability). Really frustrating as we are trying to reschedule a trip that was canceled
#1760
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 940
Has anyone heard of ANA limiting VS availability from JFK to one flight? I saw availability on ANA for J on the evening flight out of JFK. Called vs 2x and both times they said ana is limiting them to just the morning flight for awards (no availability). Really frustrating as we are trying to reschedule a trip that was canceled
At present the only flight operating from JFK to HND is NH109 on a daily basis.
This now leaves at 15:00 and arrives (+1) 18:00.
from November onwards it’s departure time is 16:55 and arrival (+1) 21:20.
From July 1st (new schedule pending), there is also NH9 to NRT which might restart when the new schedule is announced (not guaranteed).
This departs at 12:00pm and arrives (+1) at 15:00 From October this changes departure time to 11:45am and (+1) 15:00 arrival. (Although from December it is also showing from December as 10:45dept and 15:00 arrival).
If you are specifically looking for travel to NRT, then the agent is correct about the morning flight - because it’s the only NH flight travelling there daily.
If HND, they are incorrect, as it is currently an afternoon only departure which is available.
Up until recently, the flight to HND was departing at 18;00 - evening flight - but this is now 15:00 departure time.
#1761
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 33
Has anyone heard of ANA limiting VS availability from JFK to one flight? I saw availability on ANA for J on the evening flight out of JFK. Called vs 2x and both times they said ana is limiting them to just the morning flight for awards (no availability). Really frustrating as we are trying to reschedule a trip that was canceled
#1762
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: New York
Posts: 183
I’m not quite sure what you mean.
At present the only flight operating from JFK to HND is NH109 on a daily basis.
This now leaves at 15:00 and arrives (+1) 18:00.
from November onwards it’s departure time is 16:55 and arrival (+1) 21:20.
From July 1st (new schedule pending), there is also NH9 to NRT which might restart when the new schedule is announced (not guaranteed).
This departs at 12:00pm and arrives (+1) at 15:00 From October this changes departure time to 11:45am and (+1) 15:00 arrival. (Although from December it is also showing from December as 10:45dept and 15:00 arrival).
If you are specifically looking for travel to NRT, then the agent is correct about the morning flight - because it’s the only NH flight travelling there daily.
If HND, they are incorrect, as it is currently an afternoon only departure which is available.
Up until recently, the flight to HND was departing at 18;00 - evening flight - but this is now 15:00 departure time.
At present the only flight operating from JFK to HND is NH109 on a daily basis.
This now leaves at 15:00 and arrives (+1) 18:00.
from November onwards it’s departure time is 16:55 and arrival (+1) 21:20.
From July 1st (new schedule pending), there is also NH9 to NRT which might restart when the new schedule is announced (not guaranteed).
This departs at 12:00pm and arrives (+1) at 15:00 From October this changes departure time to 11:45am and (+1) 15:00 arrival. (Although from December it is also showing from December as 10:45dept and 15:00 arrival).
If you are specifically looking for travel to NRT, then the agent is correct about the morning flight - because it’s the only NH flight travelling there daily.
If HND, they are incorrect, as it is currently an afternoon only departure which is available.
Up until recently, the flight to HND was departing at 18;00 - evening flight - but this is now 15:00 departure time.
#1763
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: New York
Posts: 183
I’m not quite sure what you mean.
At present the only flight operating from JFK to HND is NH109 on a daily basis.
This now leaves at 15:00 and arrives (+1) 18:00.
from November onwards it’s departure time is 16:55 and arrival (+1) 21:20.
From July 1st (new schedule pending), there is also NH9 to NRT which might restart when the new schedule is announced (not guaranteed).
This departs at 12:00pm and arrives (+1) at 15:00 From October this changes departure time to 11:45am and (+1) 15:00 arrival. (Although from December it is also showing from December as 10:45dept and 15:00 arrival).
If you are specifically looking for travel to NRT, then the agent is correct about the morning flight - because it’s the only NH flight travelling there daily.
If HND, they are incorrect, as it is currently an afternoon only departure which is available.
Up until recently, the flight to HND was departing at 18;00 - evening flight - but this is now 15:00 departure time.
At present the only flight operating from JFK to HND is NH109 on a daily basis.
This now leaves at 15:00 and arrives (+1) 18:00.
from November onwards it’s departure time is 16:55 and arrival (+1) 21:20.
From July 1st (new schedule pending), there is also NH9 to NRT which might restart when the new schedule is announced (not guaranteed).
This departs at 12:00pm and arrives (+1) at 15:00 From October this changes departure time to 11:45am and (+1) 15:00 arrival. (Although from December it is also showing from December as 10:45dept and 15:00 arrival).
If you are specifically looking for travel to NRT, then the agent is correct about the morning flight - because it’s the only NH flight travelling there daily.
If HND, they are incorrect, as it is currently an afternoon only departure which is available.
Up until recently, the flight to HND was departing at 18;00 - evening flight - but this is now 15:00 departure time.
#1764
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: YYZ
Programs: Ex-Bonvoyed, Hyatt, Hilton, BR, AC, AA
Posts: 1,296
For after Dec 2022 there are two daily flights out of JFK NH109 (the flight I wanted) departing at 16:55 and a morning flight to NRT at 10 am ish. The two agents said they don't see anything on for the nh109 flight despite availability on ANA and other airline award searches. They both said ana was only releasing award space for one daily flight from JFK and that's the 10am flight
#1766
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,161
I booked 2 F seats roughly a year ago with points. Cannot go due to current restrictions, and lost track of dates, there weren't any reminders or anything unfortunately. First leg was actually a week or two ago, next leg is in another week or so. I will cancel the 2nd leg but is there anything I can do to recover the points and fees for the first leg?
I assume I will get refunded for 2nd leg since it was two one way tickets..
Appreciate any advice thanks
I assume I will get refunded for 2nd leg since it was two one way tickets..
Appreciate any advice thanks
If it did operate, your were probably counted as a no-show, and a refund is out of the question for that leg. If a separate one way for leg two, you can just cancel that now.
#1767
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 612
Any experience with award space opening up either in J or F? Trying to book tickets for Oct 11-16 week one way from JFK-TYO (separate onward ticket to MNL). Obviously would prefer to fly from NY but open to any airport in USA. Even with flexible dates and departure points no success looking on UA.
it appears the week of space is opened up. Generally does it between now and then or just the 330 day mark and week of?
thanks I’m advance.
it appears the week of space is opened up. Generally does it between now and then or just the 330 day mark and week of?
thanks I’m advance.
#1769
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,161
If you cancel voluntarily, there is a cancellation fee. I believe it is 30GBP for UK point of sale. The rest comes back. If the flight is cancelled by ANA, no fees.
#1770
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Exeter, UK
Programs: BA Gold. Flying Blue Gold. Hilton Gold, Accor Gold, IHG Plat AMB, Radisson Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 220
In practice, I've found that the cancellation charges aren't actually being applied at the moment (I've "voluntarily" cancelled a few VS reward bookings on NH over the past couple of years and always received all the cash back along with the points). As always, YMMV and Virgin could start applying the £30 / $30 cancellation fee again at any time.