Is this really a redemption rule?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: London, UK
Posts: 281
Is this really a redemption rule?
Was trying to book LAX to LHR flight, but Virgin Atlantic have no availability on the days I wanted. So rang up to see if they can check Air New Zealand availability on the exact same route - and was told that even if there was availability, I can't use my Virgin miles on a partner airline that Virgin fly themselves!
Even when Virgin has run out of reward seats on their own flight!
Is this right? Thinking of calling up again but the customer service assistant on the phone sounded so sure...
Even when Virgin has run out of reward seats on their own flight!
Is this right? Thinking of calling up again but the customer service assistant on the phone sounded so sure...
#3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 36
Was trying to book LAX to LHR flight, but Virgin Atlantic have no availability on the days I wanted. So rang up to see if they can check Air New Zealand availability on the exact same route - and was told that even if there was availability, I can't use my Virgin miles on a partner airline that Virgin fly themselves!
Even when Virgin has run out of reward seats on their own flight!
Is this right? Thinking of calling up again but the customer service assistant on the phone sounded so sure...
Even when Virgin has run out of reward seats on their own flight!
Is this right? Thinking of calling up again but the customer service assistant on the phone sounded so sure...
Let us know how you get on.
Andrew
#4
Join Date: May 2006
Programs: VS Au, Skywards Au, BA Exec Ag, HH Diamond, Taj Au
Posts: 1,389
I was about to say you'd been told utter bollocks, but then I checked the T&Cs on the VS web site here. It says:
Routes are available as follows:
New Zealand to the Pacific Islands: (Auckland to Fiji / Samoa / Tonga / Raratonga / Norfolk Island / Tahiti / New Caledonia & Hanan)
New Zealand to Australia: (Auckland / Wellington / Christchurch / Queenstown / Dunedin / Rotora to Sydney / Melbourne / Brisbane / Adelaide / Cairns / Coolangatta & Perth)
Australia to UK: (Sydney to London via Auckland)
Hong Kong to UK: (Hong Kong to London)
New Zealand to Asia: (Auckland to Nagoya / Osaka / Tokyo / Hong Kong / Shanghai & Beijing)
Flights originating from any destination within New Zealand other than Auckland will incur an additional internal reward mileage charge.
So apart from the error with Hong Kong, since ANZ stopped that route to London, it appears that LAX has dropped off the route list for redemptions. It certainly was there before, albeit that it was nearly impossible to book in premium or business, and it looks as though the information you were given is correct. Shame.
Routes are available as follows:
New Zealand to the Pacific Islands: (Auckland to Fiji / Samoa / Tonga / Raratonga / Norfolk Island / Tahiti / New Caledonia & Hanan)
New Zealand to Australia: (Auckland / Wellington / Christchurch / Queenstown / Dunedin / Rotora to Sydney / Melbourne / Brisbane / Adelaide / Cairns / Coolangatta & Perth)
Australia to UK: (Sydney to London via Auckland)
Hong Kong to UK: (Hong Kong to London)
New Zealand to Asia: (Auckland to Nagoya / Osaka / Tokyo / Hong Kong / Shanghai & Beijing)
Flights originating from any destination within New Zealand other than Auckland will incur an additional internal reward mileage charge.
So apart from the error with Hong Kong, since ANZ stopped that route to London, it appears that LAX has dropped off the route list for redemptions. It certainly was there before, albeit that it was nearly impossible to book in premium or business, and it looks as though the information you were given is correct. Shame.
#5
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But in the 'spend miles' section on that page (rather than the T&Cs) it does list LA-UK (and I assume UK-LA) for 50k miles for Economy and 75k for Business.
VS Inconsistency strikes again !
VS Inconsistency strikes again !
#7
Join Date: May 2006
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#8
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: London, UK
Posts: 281
So I rang Virgin again today. After spending lots of time on the phone and being transferred around, I got:
So that's it cleared up then. You can redeem partner airlines on VS routes. But its not very elegant, and quite expensive for one-way!
- Even on OW redemptions, you need to pay the roundtrip mileage
- Took forever to look up availability! A good 5 minutes of silence on the phone
- In order to look up availability, they need to enter my full details & VS number into the ANZ system (crazy right?)
So that's it cleared up then. You can redeem partner airlines on VS routes. But its not very elegant, and quite expensive for one-way!
#9
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: London, UK
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So I rang Virgin again today. After spending lots of time on the phone and being transferred around, I got:
So that's it cleared up then. You can redeem partner airlines on VS routes. But its not very elegant, and quite expensive for one-way!
- Even on OW redemptions, you need to pay the roundtrip mileage
- Took forever to look up availability! A good 5 minutes of silence on the phone
- In order to look up availability, they need to enter my full details & VS number into the ANZ system (crazy right?)
So that's it cleared up then. You can redeem partner airlines on VS routes. But its not very elegant, and quite expensive for one-way!
Seems a bit crazy to ask return miles for a one way redemption!
#10
Join Date: May 2006
Programs: VS Au, Skywards Au, BA Exec Ag, HH Diamond, Taj Au
Posts: 1,389
It's pretty standard for rewards to be return trips, in fact VS is unusual in allowing one way rewards.
#11
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: MEL
Programs: AA Gold, VA Plat, A3 Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 35
The only exception to the one way mileage charging as a rtn rule is redemptions made on Virgin Australia so you can get MEL-ADL for 8000 or LAX-SYD for 47000 with very little taxes.