SPG/VX Officially Toast after 6 Jan 17 per Starwood Lurker
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Such a bummer. I utilized the SPG & VX partnership earlier this year to redeem two VS Upper Class tickets, but now all of those partnerships have officially disintegrated...
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Is there any point transferring points before it goes away? My thinking is unless there's something you want to use Virgin America points for soon, no. Alaska points are valued at 1.3c each, compared to Starwood at 2.4c. So even with bonus transfer rate and the 1.3x VA to AS conversion it's not worth it (1.3c * 1.25 * 1.3 = 2.1125)
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Originally Posted by anothertraveller12
(Post 27672603)
Is there any point transferring points before it goes away? My thinking is unless there's something you want to use Virgin America points for soon, no. Alaska points are valued at 1.3c each, compared to Starwood at 2.4c. So even with bonus transfer rate and the 1.3x VA to AS conversion it's not worth it (1.3c * 1.25 * 1.3 = 2.1125)
After considering this for the last couple weeks I totally agree with you, transfers only makes sense if you have a ton of Starwood points and need Alaskan or VX points (and have a specific redemption in mind). |
Originally Posted by anothertraveller12
(Post 27672603)
Is there any point transferring points before it goes away? My thinking is unless there's something you want to use Virgin America points for soon, no. Alaska points are valued at 1.3c each, compared to Starwood at 2.4c. So even with bonus transfer rate and the 1.3x VA to AS conversion it's not worth it (1.3c * 1.25 * 1.3 = 2.1125)
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On Virgin America I'm able to fly on Virgin Australia round trip for 80,000 points on a flight worth $5k-$6k, so that puts VA at over 6c per point if you're doing partner redemptions.
But you're right - the first site I looked at said 1.3c, but most others say 1.7c. |
I would like to use VX miles for a Hawaiian redemption in March 2017. Can't book until then. Would you guys say its a safe bet that the VX and Hawaiian partnership still be active then? I would need to transfer SPG points for this.
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I would not count on HA remaining a partner. AS seems quite content with dismantling elevate as fast as it can. HA is AS's biggest competitor to the islands. They will surely want to push people to take AS rather than give revenue to a competitor.
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Originally Posted by sfozrhfco
(Post 27676399)
I would not count on HA remaining a partner. AS seems quite content with dismantling elevate as fast as it can. HA is AS's biggest competitor to the islands. They will surely want to push people to take AS rather than give revenue to a competitor.
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I suspect the VX Elevate program will disappear very quickly after the Jan 9 announcement. VX-to-AS transfer will likely be one-way only. I don't think AS will keep the Elevate program around for much longer after AS publishes the award chart for redemption on VX flights on Jan 9. Otherwise, that'd be an inconsistency (and an incentive to arb) between redemption levels of the two programs.
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Originally Posted by onlysuites
(Post 27676886)
Good point. In the past what type of notice have they given before they take away a partner?
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Originally Posted by sfozrhfco
(Post 27677349)
i would not not expect any notice. AS sees that it is doing elevate members a favor to be able to join Mileage Plan. I am sure they pressured Starwood to immediately cut off transfers to Elevate and only relented with extending the deadline by a few days to avoid too much passenger push back. I would simply expect a dictate with little notice that you have to sign up for Mileage Plan and your points will be moved whether you like it or not.
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Originally Posted by onlysuites
(Post 27678172)
How long do we have to officially join MP? Or is there a no date as of yet?
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Originally Posted by tth6133
(Post 27676998)
I suspect the VX Elevate program will disappear very quickly after the Jan 9 announcement. VX-to-AS transfer will likely be one-way only. I don't think AS will keep the Elevate program around for much longer after AS publishes the award chart for redemption on VX flights on Jan 9. Otherwise, that'd be an inconsistency (and an incentive to arb) between redemption levels of the two programs.
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Originally Posted by cringle
(Post 27679537)
I suspect otherwise. It will be around through 2017, at least.
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