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#4
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
Fall 2016 Westbound (Non-Premium)
October 2016
Virgin America First Class
Westbound
Breakfast
Entrées
Breakfast is served with a flaky buttery croissant.
(Contains wheat and dairy)
Poblano and Bacon Sandwich
Cage free fried egg, crisp applewood bacon, roasted poblano pepper, Monterey jack cheese, pickled red onions, and sautéed spinach on a Teiera roll. Served with a roasted tomato wedge
(Contains dairy, wheat, egg and pork)
Or
Poached Egg Shakshuka
Poached cage free eggs, sautéed Tuscan kale, and a savory tomato and bell pepper shakshuksa sauce seasoned with garlic, cumin, and cilantro. Garnished with crumbled feta cheese
(Contains eggs and optional dairy)
Hot entrées are served with a fruit salad of fresh orange and grapefruit segments, honey whipped mascarpone cheese, toasted Marcona almonds and fresh mint
(Contains dairy and nuts)
Mid Flight Snack
Muhamamara Dip with Pita
Roasted pepper, walnuts, pomegranate molasses and paprika, served with mini pitas for dipping
(Contains sugar, nuts and wheat)
Lunch & Dinner
Flights over four hours
Persian Salad
Mesclun lettuce, Persian cucumbers, orange, lime, and grapefruit segments, crumbled goat cheese and toasted pecans, lemon Dijon vinaigrette
Flights four hours and under
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives chervil and basil leaf with cherry tomatoes. Served with balsamic olive oil dressing.
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Entrées
Persian Chicken Thigh with Rice
Roasted chicken thigh rubbed with Persian spices (coriander, cinnamon, clove, cumin, cardamom, and nutmeg). Served with cherry-apricot basmati rice, roasted tomatoes and zucchini, and cucumber yogurt dill sauce.
Garnished with fresh basil, cilantro, and toasted almonds and pistachios.
(Contains poultry, optional nuts and optional dairy)
Or
Kabocha Coconut Curry
Vegetarian red Thai curry with kabocha squash, fresh pineapple, coconut milk, and lime juice.
Served with cilantro jasmine rice, fresh mint, and Thai basil.
Dessert
Brown Butter Pear Tart
Crisp buttery tart shell filled with pears sautéed in brown butter on top of creamery vanilla cream, and topped with brown sugar streusel topping
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
Virgin America First Class
Westbound
Breakfast
Entrées
Breakfast is served with a flaky buttery croissant.
(Contains wheat and dairy)
Poblano and Bacon Sandwich
Cage free fried egg, crisp applewood bacon, roasted poblano pepper, Monterey jack cheese, pickled red onions, and sautéed spinach on a Teiera roll. Served with a roasted tomato wedge
(Contains dairy, wheat, egg and pork)
Or
Poached Egg Shakshuka
Poached cage free eggs, sautéed Tuscan kale, and a savory tomato and bell pepper shakshuksa sauce seasoned with garlic, cumin, and cilantro. Garnished with crumbled feta cheese
(Contains eggs and optional dairy)
Hot entrées are served with a fruit salad of fresh orange and grapefruit segments, honey whipped mascarpone cheese, toasted Marcona almonds and fresh mint
(Contains dairy and nuts)
Mid Flight Snack
Muhamamara Dip with Pita
Roasted pepper, walnuts, pomegranate molasses and paprika, served with mini pitas for dipping
(Contains sugar, nuts and wheat)
Lunch & Dinner
Flights over four hours
Persian Salad
Mesclun lettuce, Persian cucumbers, orange, lime, and grapefruit segments, crumbled goat cheese and toasted pecans, lemon Dijon vinaigrette
Flights four hours and under
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives chervil and basil leaf with cherry tomatoes. Served with balsamic olive oil dressing.
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Entrées
Persian Chicken Thigh with Rice
Roasted chicken thigh rubbed with Persian spices (coriander, cinnamon, clove, cumin, cardamom, and nutmeg). Served with cherry-apricot basmati rice, roasted tomatoes and zucchini, and cucumber yogurt dill sauce.
Garnished with fresh basil, cilantro, and toasted almonds and pistachios.
(Contains poultry, optional nuts and optional dairy)
Or
Kabocha Coconut Curry
Vegetarian red Thai curry with kabocha squash, fresh pineapple, coconut milk, and lime juice.
Served with cilantro jasmine rice, fresh mint, and Thai basil.
Dessert
Brown Butter Pear Tart
Crisp buttery tart shell filled with pears sautéed in brown butter on top of creamery vanilla cream, and topped with brown sugar streusel topping
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
Last edited by Carfield; Nov 13, 2016 at 3:32 pm
#5
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
Eastbound
October 2016
Virgin America First Class
Eastbound
Breakfast
Entrées
Breakfast is served with a flaky buttery croissant.
(Contains wheat and dairy)
Poached Egg and Polenta Bowl
Poached cage free eggs served over creamy parmesan polenta with herbs. Accompanied by a grilled chicken sage sausage, sautéed Swiss chard, and slow-cooked tomato confit.. Garnished with parmesan cheese
(Contains eggs and optional poultry and dairy)
Or
Poblano and Portabello Breakfast Sandwich
Cage free fried egg, crisp portabello mushrooms, roasted poblano pepper, Monterey jack cheese, pickled red onions, and sautéed spinach on a Teiera roll. Served with a roasted tomato wedge
(Contains dairy, wheat, and egg)
Hot entrées are served with a fruit salad of fresh figs, honey grilled pears, red grapes, persimmon wedges, sliced Asian pear, and toasted pumpkin seeds topped with a spiced apple cider syrup
(Contains sugar and seeds)
Lunch & Dinner
Flights over four hours
Arugula Salad
Arugula salad with red grapes, roasted yellow tomato, pistachios, shaved pecorino cheese, and saba vinaigrette
Contains optional nuts and dairy
Flights four hours and under
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives, chervil, basil leaves, and cherry tomatoes. Served with olive oil and balsamic vinaigrette
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Contains wheat
Entrées
Filet Mignon with Broccolini
Grilled fillet of beef served with red beans and rice, roasted grape tomatoes, blanched broccolini, and a chili-cumin demi glace sauce. Garnished with fresh cilantro and crumbled cotija cheese
(Contains beef and optional dairy)
Or
Herbed Quinoa with Roasted Beets
Golden quinoa mixed with harissa paste and herbs.
Served with roasted marinated golden beets, spiced green lentils, charred romanesco broccoli, sautéed Swiss chard, and honey-sumac vinaigrette. Topped with crumbled feta cheese
(Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar)
Dessert
Sea Salt Chocolate Brownie By Sweet Lady Jane
Dark chocolate brownie topped with a touch of crunchy sea salt crystals
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
Virgin America First Class
Eastbound
Breakfast
Entrées
Breakfast is served with a flaky buttery croissant.
(Contains wheat and dairy)
Poached Egg and Polenta Bowl
Poached cage free eggs served over creamy parmesan polenta with herbs. Accompanied by a grilled chicken sage sausage, sautéed Swiss chard, and slow-cooked tomato confit.. Garnished with parmesan cheese
(Contains eggs and optional poultry and dairy)
Or
Poblano and Portabello Breakfast Sandwich
Cage free fried egg, crisp portabello mushrooms, roasted poblano pepper, Monterey jack cheese, pickled red onions, and sautéed spinach on a Teiera roll. Served with a roasted tomato wedge
(Contains dairy, wheat, and egg)
Hot entrées are served with a fruit salad of fresh figs, honey grilled pears, red grapes, persimmon wedges, sliced Asian pear, and toasted pumpkin seeds topped with a spiced apple cider syrup
(Contains sugar and seeds)
Lunch & Dinner
Flights over four hours
Arugula Salad
Arugula salad with red grapes, roasted yellow tomato, pistachios, shaved pecorino cheese, and saba vinaigrette
Contains optional nuts and dairy
Flights four hours and under
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives, chervil, basil leaves, and cherry tomatoes. Served with olive oil and balsamic vinaigrette
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Contains wheat
Entrées
Filet Mignon with Broccolini
Grilled fillet of beef served with red beans and rice, roasted grape tomatoes, blanched broccolini, and a chili-cumin demi glace sauce. Garnished with fresh cilantro and crumbled cotija cheese
(Contains beef and optional dairy)
Or
Herbed Quinoa with Roasted Beets
Golden quinoa mixed with harissa paste and herbs.
Served with roasted marinated golden beets, spiced green lentils, charred romanesco broccoli, sautéed Swiss chard, and honey-sumac vinaigrette. Topped with crumbled feta cheese
(Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar)
Dessert
Sea Salt Chocolate Brownie By Sweet Lady Jane
Dark chocolate brownie topped with a touch of crunchy sea salt crystals
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
Last edited by Carfield; Nov 13, 2016 at 3:32 pm
#6
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
VX Dallas Eastbound Fall 2016
October 2016
Virgin America First Class
Dallas Eastbound
Breakfast
Entrées
Breakfast is served with a flaky buttery croissant.
(Contains wheat and dairy)
Poblano and Bacon Sandwich
Cage free fried egg, crisp applewood bacon, roasted poblano pepper, Monterey jack cheese, pickled red onions, and sautéed spinach on a Teiera roll. Served with a roasted tomato wedge
(Contains dairy, wheat, egg and pork)
Or
Poached Egg Shakshuka
Poached cage free eggs, sautéed Tuscan kale, and a savory tomato and bell pepper shakshuksa sauce seasoned with garlic, cumin, and cilantro. Garnished with crumbled feta cheese
(Contains eggs and optional dairy)
Hot entrées are served with a fruit salad of fresh orange and grapefruit segments, honey whipped mascarpone cheese, toasted Marcona almonds and fresh mint
(Contains dairy and nuts)
Lunch & Dinner
Flights departing after 10am
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives, chervil, basil leaves and cherry tomatoes. Served with olive oil and balsamic dressing.
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Contains wheat
Entrées
Arroz Con Pollo
Chicken thigh braised in white wine, beer, annatto seeds, saffron, cumin, sofrito, and garlic.
Served with yellow rice, fried plantains, pickled red onions, cilantro, and a spicy Cuban mojo sauce
(Contains poultry)
Or
Savory Farro with Roasted Root Vegetables
Farro cooked in an herbed vegetable stock, served with roasted marinated beets and baby turnips, sautéed mustard greens, persimmons, and Lebanese labneh whipped with citrus zest. Garnished with toasted pistachios.
(Contains optional dairy and nuts)
Dessert
Brown Butter Pear Tart
Crisp buttery tart shell filled with pears sautéed in brown butter on top of creamery vanilla cream, and topped with brown sugar streusel topping
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
PS. I am on VX 766 DAL to LGA
Virgin America First Class
Dallas Eastbound
Breakfast
Entrées
Breakfast is served with a flaky buttery croissant.
(Contains wheat and dairy)
Poblano and Bacon Sandwich
Cage free fried egg, crisp applewood bacon, roasted poblano pepper, Monterey jack cheese, pickled red onions, and sautéed spinach on a Teiera roll. Served with a roasted tomato wedge
(Contains dairy, wheat, egg and pork)
Or
Poached Egg Shakshuka
Poached cage free eggs, sautéed Tuscan kale, and a savory tomato and bell pepper shakshuksa sauce seasoned with garlic, cumin, and cilantro. Garnished with crumbled feta cheese
(Contains eggs and optional dairy)
Hot entrées are served with a fruit salad of fresh orange and grapefruit segments, honey whipped mascarpone cheese, toasted Marcona almonds and fresh mint
(Contains dairy and nuts)
Lunch & Dinner
Flights departing after 10am
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives, chervil, basil leaves and cherry tomatoes. Served with olive oil and balsamic dressing.
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Contains wheat
Entrées
Arroz Con Pollo
Chicken thigh braised in white wine, beer, annatto seeds, saffron, cumin, sofrito, and garlic.
Served with yellow rice, fried plantains, pickled red onions, cilantro, and a spicy Cuban mojo sauce
(Contains poultry)
Or
Savory Farro with Roasted Root Vegetables
Farro cooked in an herbed vegetable stock, served with roasted marinated beets and baby turnips, sautéed mustard greens, persimmons, and Lebanese labneh whipped with citrus zest. Garnished with toasted pistachios.
(Contains optional dairy and nuts)
Dessert
Brown Butter Pear Tart
Crisp buttery tart shell filled with pears sautéed in brown butter on top of creamery vanilla cream, and topped with brown sugar streusel topping
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
PS. I am on VX 766 DAL to LGA
#7
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
Fall 2016
Virgin America First Class
Dallas Westbound
Breakfast
Entrées
Breakfast is served with a flaky buttery croissant.
(Contains wheat and dairy)
Poblano and Bacon Sandwich
Cage free fried egg, crisp applewood bacon, roasted poblano pepper, Monterey jack cheese, pickled red onions, and sautéed spinach on a Teiera roll. Served with a roasted tomato wedge
(Contains dairy, wheat, egg and pork)
Or
Poached Egg Shakshuka
Poached cage free eggs, sautéed Tuscan kale, and a savory tomato and bell pepper shakshuksa sauce seasoned with garlic, cumin, and cilantro. Garnished with crumbled feta cheese
(Contains eggs and optional dairy)
Hot entrées are served with a fruit salad of fresh orange and grapefruit segments, honey whipped mascarpone cheese, toasted Marcona almonds and fresh mint
(Contains dairy and nuts)
Lunch & Dinner
Flights departing after 10am
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives, chervil, basil leaves and cherry tomatoes. Served with balsamic olive oil dressing.
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Contains wheat
Entrées
Korean Dak Dori Tang Chicken
Sweet and spicy Korean chicken thigh braised in soy sauce, gochujang, honey, garlic and ginger. Served with slow cooked carrots, potatoes, and onions, and jasmine and black rice mix. Garnished with scallions and sesame soy sauce
(Contains poultry, soy)
Or
Quinoa Vegetable Bowl
Tricolored quinoa served with sautéed shiitake mushrooms, roasted rainbow carrots, roasted acorn squash with garam masala, and sweet potatoes. Garnished with a yellow tomato coulis.
(Contains optional dairy and nuts)
Dessert
Brown Butter Pear Tart
Crisp buttery tart shell filled with pears sautéed in brown butter on top of creamery vanilla cream, and topped with brown sugar streusel topping
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
PS I am on VX 765 from La Guardia to Dallas!
Virgin America First Class
Dallas Westbound
Breakfast
Entrées
Breakfast is served with a flaky buttery croissant.
(Contains wheat and dairy)
Poblano and Bacon Sandwich
Cage free fried egg, crisp applewood bacon, roasted poblano pepper, Monterey jack cheese, pickled red onions, and sautéed spinach on a Teiera roll. Served with a roasted tomato wedge
(Contains dairy, wheat, egg and pork)
Or
Poached Egg Shakshuka
Poached cage free eggs, sautéed Tuscan kale, and a savory tomato and bell pepper shakshuksa sauce seasoned with garlic, cumin, and cilantro. Garnished with crumbled feta cheese
(Contains eggs and optional dairy)
Hot entrées are served with a fruit salad of fresh orange and grapefruit segments, honey whipped mascarpone cheese, toasted Marcona almonds and fresh mint
(Contains dairy and nuts)
Lunch & Dinner
Flights departing after 10am
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives, chervil, basil leaves and cherry tomatoes. Served with balsamic olive oil dressing.
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Contains wheat
Entrées
Korean Dak Dori Tang Chicken
Sweet and spicy Korean chicken thigh braised in soy sauce, gochujang, honey, garlic and ginger. Served with slow cooked carrots, potatoes, and onions, and jasmine and black rice mix. Garnished with scallions and sesame soy sauce
(Contains poultry, soy)
Or
Quinoa Vegetable Bowl
Tricolored quinoa served with sautéed shiitake mushrooms, roasted rainbow carrots, roasted acorn squash with garam masala, and sweet potatoes. Garnished with a yellow tomato coulis.
(Contains optional dairy and nuts)
Dessert
Brown Butter Pear Tart
Crisp buttery tart shell filled with pears sautéed in brown butter on top of creamery vanilla cream, and topped with brown sugar streusel topping
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
PS I am on VX 765 from La Guardia to Dallas!
#9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Francisco
Programs: GM on VX, UA, AA, HA, AS, SY; Budget Fastbreak
Posts: 27,604
For SFO-ord, it was steak, turkey sandwich, or quinoa. I had the steak and loved it. The salad and brownie were also good - the brownie was huge and phenomenal. Yum!
#10
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Francisco
Programs: GM on VX, UA, AA, HA, AS, SY; Budget Fastbreak
Posts: 27,604
Ps no printed menu - the FA has to describe choices to pax. Snacks weren't distributed and had to be requested. I got cookies but forgot to request chips or popcorn.
#11
Join Date: Oct 2003
Programs: BA GGL, AA EXP and former CK, DL Plat, UA Gold MM
Posts: 493
What would it take for VX to publish their current F transcon menus on the VX site?
Also, had I known the recent breakfast sandwich in F transcon LAXJFK would be the only option aside from a yogurt meal, I would have switched to B6 Mint or AA instead. There are better offerings in coach.
I'm grateful for pax who share here, but would be nice to have a focus on F product amenities and menus directly from VX.
Also, why did VX bail on offering a F transcon amenity bag/pouch? My last 3 flights there were none and FA says they are gone while being redesigned.
Also, had I known the recent breakfast sandwich in F transcon LAXJFK would be the only option aside from a yogurt meal, I would have switched to B6 Mint or AA instead. There are better offerings in coach.
I'm grateful for pax who share here, but would be nice to have a focus on F product amenities and menus directly from VX.
Also, why did VX bail on offering a F transcon amenity bag/pouch? My last 3 flights there were none and FA says they are gone while being redesigned.
#12
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Francisco
Programs: GM on VX, UA, AA, HA, AS, SY; Budget Fastbreak
Posts: 27,604
My 11/30 flight ord>SFO had a printed menu. Persian chicken was ace. Snacks were good but I think they ran out of pretzels! Great flight of course but I'm surprised that snacks were limited.
#13
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: STL
Posts: 88
Does December count as Fall for VA? Or is there a new menu? I'm flying DCA-DAL later this month and am wondering what the dinner menu might look like.
Fall 2016
Virgin America First Class
Dallas Westbound
Lunch & Dinner
Flights departing after 10am
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives, chervil, basil leaves and cherry tomatoes. Served with balsamic olive oil dressing.
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Contains wheat
Entrées
Korean Dak Dori Tang Chicken
Sweet and spicy Korean chicken thigh braised in soy sauce, gochujang, honey, garlic and ginger. Served with slow cooked carrots, potatoes, and onions, and jasmine and black rice mix. Garnished with scallions and sesame soy sauce
(Contains poultry, soy)
Or
Quinoa Vegetable Bowl
Tricolored quinoa served with sautéed shiitake mushrooms, roasted rainbow carrots, roasted acorn squash with garam masala, and sweet potatoes. Garnished with a yellow tomato coulis.
(Contains optional dairy and nuts)
Dessert
Brown Butter Pear Tart
Crisp buttery tart shell filled with pears sautéed in brown butter on top of creamery vanilla cream, and topped with brown sugar streusel topping
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
PS I am on VX 765 from La Guardia to Dallas!
Virgin America First Class
Dallas Westbound
Lunch & Dinner
Flights departing after 10am
Simple Salad
Mesclun mix with chives, chervil, basil leaves and cherry tomatoes. Served with balsamic olive oil dressing.
Lunch and Dinner are served with a Multigrain Roll
Contains wheat
Entrées
Korean Dak Dori Tang Chicken
Sweet and spicy Korean chicken thigh braised in soy sauce, gochujang, honey, garlic and ginger. Served with slow cooked carrots, potatoes, and onions, and jasmine and black rice mix. Garnished with scallions and sesame soy sauce
(Contains poultry, soy)
Or
Quinoa Vegetable Bowl
Tricolored quinoa served with sautéed shiitake mushrooms, roasted rainbow carrots, roasted acorn squash with garam masala, and sweet potatoes. Garnished with a yellow tomato coulis.
(Contains optional dairy and nuts)
Dessert
Brown Butter Pear Tart
Crisp buttery tart shell filled with pears sautéed in brown butter on top of creamery vanilla cream, and topped with brown sugar streusel topping
Contains dairy, wheat, and sugar
Snacks Anytime
Top Shelf Bites
Nibble on a spread of delectable Dean & Deluca snacks throughout the flight
PS I am on VX 765 from La Guardia to Dallas!
#14
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K, AS MVP, Bonvoy Plat, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Hyatt Disc
Posts: 217
What would it take for VX to publish their current F transcon menus on the VX site?
Also, had I known the recent breakfast sandwich in F transcon LAXJFK would be the only option aside from a yogurt meal, I would have switched to B6 Mint or AA instead. There are better offerings in coach.
I'm grateful for pax who share here, but would be nice to have a focus on F product amenities and menus directly from VX.
Also, why did VX bail on offering a F transcon amenity bag/pouch? My last 3 flights there were none and FA says they are gone while being redesigned.
Also, had I known the recent breakfast sandwich in F transcon LAXJFK would be the only option aside from a yogurt meal, I would have switched to B6 Mint or AA instead. There are better offerings in coach.
I'm grateful for pax who share here, but would be nice to have a focus on F product amenities and menus directly from VX.
Also, why did VX bail on offering a F transcon amenity bag/pouch? My last 3 flights there were none and FA says they are gone while being redesigned.
Re the new menu, I've enjoyed everything I've had except not a big fan of the pear dessert and my filet came out well done (and I'm someone that orders a filet blue at a restaurant). Steak never works on a plane, where you obviously can't sear.
Last edited by shza; Dec 5, 2016 at 6:21 pm
#15
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
But as of this point, it is anyone's guess, but if you travel after December 18, there is a good chance for a new menu.
I agree that Virgin America needs to update its website with menus in both first and coach. They used to do a better job in updating the menu there, but not sure why they decide to stop doing it. They have a very small network so basically there are only eight rotation of menus with plenty of overlaps. (Eastbound/westbound/Transcon Premium eastbound/westbound/DAL to East Coast/East Coast to DAL/Hawaii to Mainland/Mexico to US). Plus they only have four menu cycles.
Carfield