Virgin DFW load factors @ 92%???
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Virgin DFW load factors @ 92%???
One of the local papers here in North Texas is reporting a DFW airport official saying Virgin America has a 92% load factor on their flights in and out of the airport. Does that strike anyone else as a little high? I would be tremendously pleased for them if it were accurate, but it doesn't correspond with my personal experience on Virgin to and from CA.
If it is indeed correct, it leads me to wonder if there isn't more opportunity for Virgin here at DFW....
From the Star-Telegram:
DFW Airport passenger traffic up 3.3 percent for June, launches Foursquare and Facebook Places promos
About 5.3 million passengers traveled through Dallas/Fort Worth Airport in June, up 3.3 percent from the same time last year.
Airport executives attributed the summer traffic gain to new low-cost carriers, such as Virgin America and Spirit Airlines, now providing service out of DFW.
Low-cost carriers had 28.3 percent more passengers in June compared to June 2010 and Virgin America had load factors of 92 percent on its flights, said Luis Perez, vice president of air service development told the airport's board at its monthly meeting on Thursday.
If it is indeed correct, it leads me to wonder if there isn't more opportunity for Virgin here at DFW....
From the Star-Telegram:
DFW Airport passenger traffic up 3.3 percent for June, launches Foursquare and Facebook Places promos
About 5.3 million passengers traveled through Dallas/Fort Worth Airport in June, up 3.3 percent from the same time last year.
Airport executives attributed the summer traffic gain to new low-cost carriers, such as Virgin America and Spirit Airlines, now providing service out of DFW.
Low-cost carriers had 28.3 percent more passengers in June compared to June 2010 and Virgin America had load factors of 92 percent on its flights, said Luis Perez, vice president of air service development told the airport's board at its monthly meeting on Thursday.
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I wouldn't be totally suprised-
but remember how many incentives they've given...
2-for-1 flights, 20% off flights, 50% off via groupon from DFW, 15 eleVAte points per dollar spent...
VA is incredibly packing their planes right now... but how many people are they ACTUALLY turning profit on?
but remember how many incentives they've given...
2-for-1 flights, 20% off flights, 50% off via groupon from DFW, 15 eleVAte points per dollar spent...
VA is incredibly packing their planes right now... but how many people are they ACTUALLY turning profit on?
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People are none-too-pleased with AA in these parts (SF Bay Area) - they have gutted the route system from here, and are tired of flying to/from DFW on MD80s. The capacity on Bay Area / DFW could have probably used VX's increase, and for O/D travel, I'd take them over AA.
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I wouldn't be totally suprised-
but remember how many incentives they've given...
2-for-1 flights, 20% off flights, 50% off via groupon from DFW, 15 eleVAte points per dollar spent...
VA is incredibly packing their planes right now... but how many people are they ACTUALLY turning profit on?
but remember how many incentives they've given...
2-for-1 flights, 20% off flights, 50% off via groupon from DFW, 15 eleVAte points per dollar spent...
VA is incredibly packing their planes right now... but how many people are they ACTUALLY turning profit on?
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In denial about what, exactly?? I don't think anyone here has been cheering the load factors and trumpeting them as representing a great and profitable achievement on the part of the airline, rather just discussing the percentage of butts in seats.
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People are none-too-pleased with AA in these parts (SF Bay Area) - they have gutted the route system from here, and are tired of flying to/from DFW on MD80s. The capacity on Bay Area / DFW could have probably used VX's increase, and for O/D travel, I'd take them over AA.
Your comments are less about VX entering the market and more about how FF programs inherently work against the consumer: by passing a few crumbs off the table the legacies receive huge data streams about your consuming habits, and protect against mass exodus to a shinier, newer product like VX. When you have substantial mileage built up with a carriers like AA, you are esentially trapped from trying a competitor despite the relatively poor hard product they are offering these days.
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 325
I wouldn't be totally suprised-
but remember how many incentives they've given...
2-for-1 flights, 20% off flights, 50% off via groupon from DFW, 15 eleVAte points per dollar spent...
VA is incredibly packing their planes right now... but how many people are they ACTUALLY turning profit on?
but remember how many incentives they've given...
2-for-1 flights, 20% off flights, 50% off via groupon from DFW, 15 eleVAte points per dollar spent...
VA is incredibly packing their planes right now... but how many people are they ACTUALLY turning profit on?