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Originally Posted by flabound
(Post 26419697)
His was issued 9 years ago in December............and the wording says " you need a valid e passport" not you need a passport with a date of...........
he flies Tuesday the email wasn't from BA it was from US CBP..................... as to when it was announced I have no idea but to tell anyone on the day of expiry is a bit lame ? I would actually say there was no obligation on the US CBP to email anyone today and simply decline people at the airport. I would say he should be grateful that they did. |
Originally Posted by agehall
(Post 26419683)
How long are passports valid in the UK? I thought it was pretty much impossible to have a valid passport that isn't an e-passport nowadays...
I have to say that, even as someone who has a higher than average handle on travel and flying compared to Joe Public, and with an upcoming US trip, I didnt know anything about this. Fingers crossed the OPs friend gets it sorted! |
Although if you renew a passport early, up to 9 months of the time remaining on an old passport can be added to a new passport. So a passport issued in September 2006 (which would not have been an e-passport) could theoretically be valid until May 2017. There may be quite a lot of people who still have valid non e-passports who are not within 6 months of expiry (the usual "life" needed on passport for entry to a lot of countries).
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Originally Posted by flabound
(Post 26419697)
His was issued 9 years ago in December.............
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Oh ****!
I didn't know this and I am off to Las Vegas on Sunday. I have a passport issued 26th September 2006 that is not an ePassport. I was going to renew it after this trip. Looking at the BA website I found details that say: If you don't have an e-Passport and you are a citizen of a country that joined the Visa Waiver Program prior to 2008, you can still travel without a visa if: You have a valid passport with a machine-readable zone issued before 26 October 2005, or If your passport includes a digital photograph and was issued between 26 October 2005 and 25 October 2006. If your passport was issued on or after 26 October 2006 and it is not an e-Passport, you will need to obtain a visa. What do they mean by digital photo? Any ideas urgently! I cannot renew my passport in time - IOM has outsourced passport printing to the UK and the minimum is a 5 day service! Cheers Manx Flyer (worried!) |
This has been discussed in many forums, has been in the British newspapers and on certainly BAs web site
It's up to the individual to ensure they meet the requirements, I'm surprised when they applied for their ESTA they didn't notice thus as well! |
Originally Posted by Manx Flyer
(Post 26419830)
What do they mean by digital photo? (worried!) They scan the photo you send in and that gets printed in the passport instead of it being stuck in like on previous versions. |
Interesting. One of my passports expires next month (issued May 2006) and is an epassport.
I wonder what the rationale was for whether passports were issued with the chip or not back then... different UK offices? |
I'm not entirely sure what is the relevance to the BA forum. This has, strictly speaking, nothing to do with BA and is covered in other (more relevant) sections of FT.
Countries change travel requirements frequently and it is always worth double checking on national travel websites. There have been recent changes to entry conditions to the likes of Brazil, Canada, etc. Unfortunately, national authorities are rarely very good at advertising such changes so keeping an eye is really the only way to avoid bad surprises. |
Originally Posted by Manx Flyer
(Post 26419830)
Oh ****!
I didn't know this and I am off to Las Vegas on Sunday. I have a passport issued 26th September 2006 that is not an ePassport. I was going to renew it after this trip. Looking at the BA website I found details that say: If you don't have an e-Passport and you are a citizen of a country that joined the Visa Waiver Program prior to 2008, you can still travel without a visa if: You have a valid passport with a machine-readable zone issued before 26 October 2005, or If your passport includes a digital photograph and was issued between 26 October 2005 and 25 October 2006. If your passport was issued on or after 26 October 2006 and it is not an e-Passport, you will need to obtain a visa. What do they mean by digital photo? Any ideas urgently! I cannot renew my passport in time - IOM has outsourced passport printing to the UK and the minimum is a 5 day service! Cheers Manx Flyer (worried!) Seems a bit harsh to be honest - if you're only making the ESTAs valid for 2 years, then probably reasonable not to shift the goal posts on an arbitrary basis in that window! |
Originally Posted by Manx Flyer
(Post 26419830)
Oh ****!
I didn't know this and I am off to Las Vegas on Sunday. I have a passport issued 26th September 2006 that is not an ePassport. I was going to renew it after this trip. Looking at the BA website I found details that say: If you don't have an e-Passport and you are a citizen of a country that joined the Visa Waiver Program prior to 2008, you can still travel without a visa if: You have a valid passport with a machine-readable zone issued before 26 October 2005, or If your passport includes a digital photograph and was issued between 26 October 2005 and 25 October 2006. If your passport was issued on or after 26 October 2006 and it is not an e-Passport, you will need to obtain a visa. What do they mean by digital photo? Any ideas urgently! I cannot renew my passport in time - IOM has outsourced passport printing to the UK and the minimum is a 5 day service! Cheers Manx Flyer (worried!) |
Originally Posted by Swiss Tony
(Post 26419707)
Absolutely - but this appears to be a late change by the US. What are you supposed to do - trawl consular websites daily to see what's changed?
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Originally Posted by Manx Flyer
(Post 26419830)
What do they mean by digital photo? Any ideas urgently! I cannot renew my passport in time - IOM has outsourced passport printing to the UK and the minimum is a 5 day service!
Older passports have a rectangular hump around the photo. |
Phew...
Originally Posted by windowontheAside
(Post 26419864)
Interesting. One of my passports expires next month (issued May 2006) and is an epassport.
I wonder what the rationale was for whether passports were issued with the chip or not back then... different UK offices? However, I have had a good look and my photo is printed on the passport directly, as there are printed security features over and through the image. So it looks like I am good for now. Better get it replaced as soon as I am back though. On a side note that means the queue I join at LCY will be longer. The non eGates queue is normally quicker there when I arrive! But I probably win when landing at Heathrow so it all balances out I guess. Once again, this forums knowledge helps a worried traveller. Thanks. Cheers Manx Flyer (not as worried anymore) |
Originally Posted by MrMutton
(Post 26419739)
I have to say that, even as someone who has a higher than average handle on travel and flying compared to Joe Public, and with an upcoming US trip, I didnt know anything about this. Fingers crossed the OPs friend gets it sorted!
My previous ESTA ran out last year so I got a new ESTA last October; it did not mention then anything new coming up or that validity would (effectively) be to 31 March 2016 only. I then had a window in early March where I thought it good to renew my 'old-style' UK Passport early. Lucky as it turned out. I nipped down to the Passport Office in Victoria and got it done in a day (old one would have expired late August 2016). Thus I got an e-passport and had to get (another!) new ESTA. I guess if US CBP can send a post fact e-mail to an ESTA holder's e-address on 1 April 2016; they could have sent a pro-active one the day the US actually affirmed this change (which I think was back in January 2016). Unusually, I didn't see this in Flyertalk at the time which is one of my 'safety blankets' for this sort of stuff, nor is it on my work Travel Portal 'warnings' list. I did know about it later via a separate thread in BAEC FT on the new Canadian programme. I would imagine its tough to get next day appointments at UK Passport offices at the moment. |
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