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4now Jul 19, 2010 4:15 pm

:) me, too.
Maybe that's what those $ coins are for?:D

PTravel Jul 19, 2010 4:18 pm


Originally Posted by gglave (Post 14326537)
The last hurdle for me is 'asking for change' when I tip - I just can't seem to do it. Can anyone else?

I recently had a small box delivered to my hotel room by the bellboy - I'd only just hit the ATM so all I had was twenties. I wasn't going to tip the guy $20, but I also didn't feel it was appropriate to ask for change for a tip, so he left with nothing, whereas if I'd had some smaller bills I'd've tipped the guy a few bucks.

What's the protocol?

"Sorry, I've nothing smaller. Could you give me $10 (or $15 or whatever) back?"

Never a problem.

Camflyer Jul 19, 2010 4:42 pm


Originally Posted by gglave (Post 14326537)
What's the protocol?

I've never had problem. I always have a small wad of dollar bills left over from previous trips.

NotDuncan Jul 19, 2010 10:24 pm


Originally Posted by gglave (Post 14326537)
The last hurdle for me is 'asking for change' when I tip - I just can't seem to do it. Can anyone else?

I recently had a small box delivered to my hotel room by the bellboy - I'd only just hit the ATM so all I had was twenties. I wasn't going to tip the guy $20, but I also didn't feel it was appropriate to ask for change for a tip, so he left with nothing, whereas if I'd had some smaller bills I'd've tipped the guy a few bucks.

What's the protocol?

I worked my way through college as a bellman in a Hyatt in the city I went to school. There is absolutely nothing wrong in asking for change to tip, believe me. Any bellman/doorman/valet worth his salt is used to this, and will have a wad in his pocket from which to make change. They'd much rather that than walk away with nothing. You will not offend anyone by doing this.

N.B., and just FYI, calling him a bellboy is roughly the equivalent of calling a Flight attendant a stewardess nowadays. Bellman is the preferred terminology.

trilinearmipmap Jul 20, 2010 12:05 am

Here is my tipping scheme:

Taxis: 0%
Bellman: 0%, except in exceptional cases such as carrying 12 pieces of luggage for my entire family, I may tip $3.00
Front Desk: 0%
Waiter/Waitress: 0%
Anybody else: 0%

I used to tip on a sliding scale 5/10/15/20% for poor to excellent service. I realized that (1) the employer, not the customer, is responsible for the employee's paycheque, (2) tipping has gone from a reward for excellent service to an entitlement, (3) approximately 50% of people don't tip in North America and many more tip only 5% or so, the "standard 15% to 20% tip" is fiction invented by those in service industries, and (4) I serve people all day long and no one has ever tipped me.

I have not noticed any decline in service from the time when I tipped generously to recent times when I virtually never tip.

nkedel Jul 20, 2010 12:44 am


Originally Posted by trilinearmipmap (Post 14330972)
(3) approximately 50% of people don't tip in North America and many more tip only 5% or so, the "standard 15% to 20% tip" is fiction invented by those in service industries

Do you have a citation for that figure? Given tipping out to people in other positions, and government imputation of tips for tax purposes, I find that figure implausible (at least as 50% of restaurant customers: if you include those too poor to eat out and those too young or not working who only eat out on someone else's dime, perhaps...)


I have not noticed any decline in service from the time when I tipped generously to recent times when I virtually never tip.
In general: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem
If that includes places where you're a regular, well, I guess either they're too professional to take it out on you or have too high turnover for you to get a reputation.

Camflyer Jul 20, 2010 2:17 am


Originally Posted by trilinearmipmap (Post 14330972)
I have not noticed any decline in service from the time when I tipped generously to recent times when I virtually never tip.

That may be fine if you only ever go to that bar or restaurant but I wouldn't expect to get good service the next time you went back. Waiting staff have very long memories.

About 50% of men don't wash their hands after going to the toilet. That's no reason to go along with the majority. :)

anat0l Jul 20, 2010 2:30 am


Originally Posted by Camflyer (Post 14331230)
That may be fine if you only ever go to that bar or restaurant but I wouldn't expect to get good service the next time you went back. Waiting staff have very long memories.

A quote from The Simpsons - and if anyone knows who Mr Burns and Luigi are, then you'll understand this reference:

Burns: Bravissimo, Luigi! Bring us your finest bottle of vino!
Luigi: Hey, you trust-ah Luigi, huh? He knows-ah what for to make-ah really nice the amore.
Jackie: Oh, Monty, I've never been to a more romantic restaurant.
Luigi: [heard off-screen; entering kitchen] Hey, Salvatore! Break out the cheap hooch for Mr. No-Tip and the dried-up-ah zombie he's-ah captured!

DCBob Jul 20, 2010 6:09 am


Originally Posted by Camflyer (Post 14331230)
That may be fine if you only ever go to that bar or restaurant but I wouldn't expect to get good service the next time you went back. Waiting staff have very long memories.

About 50% of men don't wash their hands after going to the toilet. That's no reason to go along with the majority. :)

+1. Absolutely correct. If you don't tip (unless the service was simply horrible), I would not plan to go back to the same place again. You never know what hidden surprise you might find in your food. :eek:

Mr H Jul 20, 2010 6:25 am


Originally Posted by DCBob (Post 14331847)
If you don't tip (unless the service was simply horrible), I would not plan to go back to the same place again. You never know what hidden surprise you might find in your food.

So is the tip supposed to be a reward for good service or insurance against menaces?

User Name Jul 20, 2010 6:28 am


Originally Posted by Mr H (Post 14331912)
So is the tip supposed to be a reward for good service or insurance against menaces?

Sounds a bit like the kid who offers to "look after your car" for 50p.

T8191 Jul 20, 2010 7:00 am


Originally Posted by Mr H (Post 14331912)
So is the tip supposed to be a reward for good service or insurance against menaces?

I regard it first as a reward, and secondly as insurance for superior future services.

However, being nice and polite to the human beings who are serving you, and generally facilitating your passage through life, is surely the primary consideration?

FYI, we have found that significantly more beneficial than simply tipping the accustomed $$/%ge.

4now Jul 20, 2010 7:17 am

:) T8191, I like your attitude; I really do.:-:
However, I am not a "people person"; and I slice things a little differently.
For me the tip comes first(and its based on how important the service rendered was to me) and the pleasantries come maybe later.;)

T8191 Jul 20, 2010 9:01 am


Originally Posted by 4now (Post 14332157)
:) T8191, I like your attitude; I really do.:-:
However, I am not a "people person"; and I slice things a little differently.
For me the tip comes first(and its based on how important the service rendered was to me) and the pleasantries come maybe later.;)

Whoops ... that's the difference between a resident of GA and two Brits spending a lot of time in VA, I guess :D

We find starting with pleasantries oils the wheels beautifully, but then as we get endless "Oh, gosh, I just love your accent" the "people person" bit just kicks in naturally. But I readily accept that Brits in suburban VA aren't an everyday occurrence, more of an oddity! :)

Looking forward to saying "Hi" to Bernie on the Deli counter at Harris Teeter in a few weeks. And, no, I don't give her a tip for serving us!

sydunipete May 22, 2015 1:36 am

Apologies if this has already been dealt with - this thread is getting quite long now.

What would be an appropriate tip for a shuttle bus (shared ride bus) from JFK with an advertised fare of $55 per head? There are two of us and the ride will take 2 1/2 to 3 hours.

Many thanks.


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