USAirways fleet page includes A350..5 years early!
Feb 10, 2009, 8:09 am
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Not necessarily. LH flies the A340 from FRA-PHL. Not comparing LH to US but it would seem to me that those 2 city pairs would support the A340 service or else LH wouldn't be using it. A 747...well, that's entirely different.
Feb 10, 2009, 9:08 am
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"*coming in 2014" suffices for disclosure, no?
Not sure what the row is about.
Not sure what the row is about.
Feb 10, 2009, 9:30 am
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Feb 10, 2009, 9:55 am
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Feb 10, 2009, 11:24 am
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I guess the OP must be young. In the olden days of the 70's, it wasn't unusual for a company to advertise what was coming down the road. Not quite old enough to remember, but I bet that the airlines trumpeted the 747/DC10/L1011 years in advance.
Feb 10, 2009, 2:35 pm
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Well, I'm not that young. But not so old that I remember airline ads in the 70's. It's one thing to "advertise" what's coming down the road. That would be like when airlines announce new orders. Their advertising comes in the form of the bump in press coverage they get in conjunction with the news from the aircraft maker. I still doubt they were putting fleet types in their in-flight magazines and paper timetables 5 years in advance.
Feb 10, 2009, 2:41 pm
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Look, the geeks who are looking at the aircraft fleet pictures generally like this stuff.
Not sure why you WOULDN'T put it on the page, especially if you note the year the aircraft is scheduled to arrive.
Like should the airlines that ordered the A380 have kept that a secret as they awaited (seemingly forever) their exciting new aircraft?
Feb 10, 2009, 5:22 pm
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However, it is an entirely different question being discussed - is it normal for an airline to include an airplane that is still 5 years away from arriving on it's "Our Fleet" fact sheet?
DL, via the merger with NW, has orders for the 787 but you won't find that aircraft on list of aircraft in it's fleet although it'll be arriving 2-3 years earlier than the A350.
AA has 787's on order with deliveries beginning in 2012, yet doesn't have it on their fleet page.
So it does appear that US is the lone standout among the U.S. carriers.
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Feb 10, 2009, 6:22 pm
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Point of comparison - the 787 will be in revenue service with airlines like Ana and Continental LOOOONNNNG before Airbus gets their A350 certified. Yet, I see no mention of the 787 in the fleet pages on their respective web sites. Continental has a separate, well identified "future fleet plan" document that talks about this. At least they're up front and honest about it.
Feb 10, 2009, 8:48 pm
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Oh, and those aircraft are in addition to the flights that US also flies on those routes...
I suppose that I do have the advantage of looking out my window and seeing them on approach to PHL FWIW.
Feb 10, 2009, 9:22 pm
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I interpreted spin's post as saying that US doesn't have enough traffic to justify anything bigger than the 330. If BA and LH dropped their flights it might be different.
But as I said, that's just my interpretation.
Jim
But as I said, that's just my interpretation.
Jim
Feb 10, 2009, 9:28 pm
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They probably listed the seating chart for the A350 now so seatguru.com and seatcounter.com have time to enter it into their websites. US has been accused of withholding information from them in the past. Good to see US turning over a new leaf.
Feb 10, 2009, 11:28 pm
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Cargo being ceteris paribus, what kind of passenger load (%) does a 747-400 need to break-even? I'll use United's new configurations as the model (374 passengers).
I've seen plenty of 747s in and out of PHL and EWR into London, Munich, and Paris for TATL Ops.
To the extent it's hard to effectively fill them up on a busy domestic pairing, a larger plane could allow scheduling to take two flights and merge them into one. Thoughts?
I've seen plenty of 747s in and out of PHL and EWR into London, Munich, and Paris for TATL Ops.
To the extent it's hard to effectively fill them up on a busy domestic pairing, a larger plane could allow scheduling to take two flights and merge them into one. Thoughts?
Feb 11, 2009, 4:14 pm
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