Shake up at the castle (3 execs, including VP Marketing Travis Christ, to leave US)
#31
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Selfish!! Selfish!! Selfish!!
I've said it already but I'll say it again, wishing the airline to go under is just selfish. You are more concerned about your few routes than you are about the thousands upon thousands of people who would loose their jobs. Are there things that I wish weren't cut (i.e. bonus miles, mileage minimums, etc.), sure. Would I rather have things cut and see the airline stay around, yes. Also as a 2nd reason for not wanting the airline to go under, if they did many many people (including so many on this board) would loose their miles that they've worked so hard to earn over time.
So keep the selfishness to yourself.
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It's kind of like this: if you want to speak with an authoritative voice like that, people will assume you work for Tempe. That's before we get into a historical nature posting analysis (eg, "which side").
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I would not assume that because many VFF's haven't moved to UA / CO yet, that they're not going to at the end of the year. I've weighed the situation carefully and will stick it out with US through 2008, then am moving to UA or CO (depends on how far CO has progressed with the UA deal or their *A move) with a status match. This is, of course, unless US returns the bonus miles. I have never in my life seen a more ridiculous business decision. By now, since no other carrier has gone along with the bonus miles removal, you'd think they'd wise up and figure out what a dumb move this was. I still think the move had more to do with end of the year executive bonuses then it did to the long term health of the company.
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Not true. Less competition on a short term basis will cause airfares to rise dramatically. If anything because the lack of inventory will cause a higher demand and related higher fares. It would take a while for airfares to drop if they even were to.
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I have to ask: how can you confidently confirm this and state who is leaving, what is being filled, and what is not if you do not work for US Airways?
It's kind of like this: if you want to speak with an authoritative voice like that, people will assume you work for Tempe. That's before we get into a historical nature posting analysis (eg, "which side").
It's kind of like this: if you want to speak with an authoritative voice like that, people will assume you work for Tempe. That's before we get into a historical nature posting analysis (eg, "which side").
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If you think for a minute that current management and owners think about anything else but about themselves you are sadly mistaken. US management is not concerned about frequent fliers so why would we in turn be concerned about US?
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I'm not saying anyone has to be concerned about management but regardless of what management thinks of FFs would you seriously wish unemployment on thousands and thousands of hard working people that really have no control over what their bosses do?
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How do you know that these people are leaving? How can you definitively say "it's true" and do you have a relationship with US Airways either as an employee or as an employee of a company that provides US Airways with a service?
Because, to be perfectly frank, that's what it looks like.
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Turning a cash issue into saying the airline might not make it thru the end of the year appears suggestive enough that you'd hope the airline would go under. It just seems as if you are trying to find support for wanting the airline to go under. Airlines are all having their cash issues and doing what they can to correct it. Plus everything I've seen shows that US is not in the best cash position of the majors but is not in the worse position either.
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It is hardly possible to have less competition in CLT then we have now. If US scales down and say releases B gates I am sure that there will be many airlines that will get in. I am pretty sure WN will pick up biggest east coast routes in a heartbeat! I can't imagine no airline will pick up CLT-IAD/DCA and CLT-LGA/EWR routes.
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So I refuse your attempts to blame victims, because this is exactly what you are doing when you are blaming FFers.
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US going under is not doing of FFers but their management. So thousands and thousands of heard working people shouldn't blame anyone, especially not FFers but their management for situation they are in.
So I refuse your attempts to blame victims, because this is exactly what you are doing when you are blaming FFers.
So I refuse your attempts to blame victims, because this is exactly what you are doing when you are blaming FFers.
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None of my posts are blaming FFers for anyting going on at the airline. The FFers of course cant control what management does. I am just saying that those on here that are actively wishing for the airline to go under are being selfish. If you don't like whats going on at US, move on and go to another airline instead of sticking around and wishing doom on the airline.
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With all that said, people keep hoping WN and other airlines will take over CLT. All I can say is, don't hold your breath. I don't think you'll see any airlines trying to overtake any particular market, anytime soon.