Shake up at the castle (3 execs, including VP Marketing Travis Christ, to leave US)
Sep 5, 2008, 7:00 pm
#166
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FWIW, I've met Nocella, and while he is a decent enough and forthright fellow he did NOT strike me as a marketing guy.
Sep 6, 2008, 12:30 pm
#167
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It compares a city that lost hub status (BNA) to one that still has a hub (CVG) The gist of the article is that Nashville officials believe they are better off without the hub.
How a city can win by losing its airport hub status
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what percentage of CLT's passengers are O&D and what percentage are connecting?
Sep 6, 2008, 1:33 pm
#168
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As a longtime fan of HP, I am sad to say that I'm in the camp of those wanting to see US go down in flames. At this point, I'd rather take my chances with whatever arises from the ashes.
As someone posted earlier, I would hope that other airline managers would learn what not to do from US' mistakes.
As someone posted earlier, I would hope that other airline managers would learn what not to do from US' mistakes.
Sep 6, 2008, 4:45 pm
#169
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You've got to be kidding
But wanting US to 'go down in flames'? Which would result in financially devastating 35,000 families? How could you possibly wish such ill-will on so many people?
I certainly hope you or your loved ones are never caught up in such a misfortune.
Sep 6, 2008, 4:51 pm
#170
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AZ I agree. Thank you...
Sep 6, 2008, 4:54 pm
#171
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I don't think that US will totally go out of business. They would have their routes and assets (and probably many of their employees) sold to another airline, or totally absorbed by a healthier airline. At this point, maybe WN would snap up their domestic network, and sell off their foreign assets.
Sep 6, 2008, 9:15 pm
#172
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As a longtime fan of HP, I am sad to say that I'm in the camp of those wanting to see US go down in flames. At this point, I'd rather take my chances with whatever arises from the ashes.
As someone posted earlier, I would hope that other airline managers would learn what not to do from US' mistakes.
As someone posted earlier, I would hope that other airline managers would learn what not to do from US' mistakes.
I am not a fan on the new US either however having said that, it's the HP management that took over and made old US the crap that it is now.
Before the merger old US had a superior product that HP ever had.
At least old US management did not lie to it's customers and actually listened to what we had to say.
Sep 8, 2008, 10:20 pm
#173
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You have made clear in the past that you gave up on the airline long ago and taken your business elsewhere; a responsible way to voice your displeasure.
But wanting US to 'go down in flames'? Which would result in financially devastating 35,000 families? How could you possibly wish such ill-will on so many people?
I certainly hope you or your loved ones are never caught up in such a misfortune.
But wanting US to 'go down in flames'? Which would result in financially devastating 35,000 families? How could you possibly wish such ill-will on so many people?
I certainly hope you or your loved ones are never caught up in such a misfortune.
The only hope for this airline is to colaps - and get picked up and rebuild by someone else. It is those who have no imagination and are in denial - who are to blame - the USAirways appologists like you. The only hope for FF is that this company goes in flames and those who acquire the remains will be smart to recognise that FF elites are worth keeping.
So far this year I took my business elsewhere, I only flew some 7,000 miles on USAirways, I saved enough to buy myself the Chairman's status at USAirways, and I have enough left in my pocket that I could buy the business class tickets for cash that would have cost me 160,000 miles from USAirways. I do miss the old USAirways employees, but 90% of those I knew jumped the ship anyway. Who are you kidding AZ Travels the World - you know nothing about the real World.
Sep 8, 2008, 10:56 pm
#174
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Sep 9, 2008, 5:33 pm
#175
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I agree with AZ. I feel bad for the employees at US. They are at the mercy of management.
Sep 9, 2008, 5:45 pm
#176
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Companies fail and fade away and are eventually replaced by new and better ones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction
Sep 9, 2008, 5:59 pm
#177
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That is a nice thought but for most of the employees they didn't do anything wrong but could lose their jobs.
It is always nice to stand up for what is right but sometimes other things come first. How are these employees going to pay bills, eat, etc. if the airline fails?
It is always nice to stand up for what is right but sometimes other things come first. How are these employees going to pay bills, eat, etc. if the airline fails?