First flight to LHR
Mar 30, 2008, 7:57 am
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First flight to LHR
I note that US728, a 333, made it to LHR ahead of schedule - was there any sort of ceremony to celebrate the event like the CO folks did with their flight?
Mar 30, 2008, 2:33 pm
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Mar 30, 2008, 2:34 pm
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Mar 30, 2008, 4:09 pm
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the BA fllights are moving to LHR T5 on April 29th if it carries on like it is at T5 then I will be on it, I have already joined the BMI points scheme to get *A miles in case I need them
Mar 30, 2008, 4:38 pm
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Well that makes 3 of us. LHR puts me about a half hour closer to home.
Do non club members get access to any club at Heathrow when flying Envoy?
Do non club members get access to any club at Heathrow when flying Envoy?
Mar 30, 2008, 5:04 pm
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is club the access to the lounge status?, I have a lot to learn !!! I was hoping that since US dont status match that I could get silver matched through BMI but I dont know if that gives me lounge/club access, it does with BA as does flying in business (thats envoy right?) or is club a higher lounge?
oh and is it true that the seats go nearly flat but not all the way?
oh and is it true that the seats go nearly flat but not all the way?
Mar 30, 2008, 5:23 pm
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On the other hand, the time of US's PHL-LHR is pretty lousy for anyone that wants to arrive in the morning and work most of a day, and if I have to arrive a day early I may as well go to EWR or go via IAD and take a day flight.
is club the access to the lounge status?, I have a lot to learn !!! I was hoping that since US dont status match that I could get silver matched through BMI but I dont know if that gives me lounge/club access, it does with BA as does flying in business (thats envoy right?) or is club a higher lounge?
oh and is it true that the seats go nearly flat but not all the way?
oh and is it true that the seats go nearly flat but not all the way?
"Club" in the e-mail above refers to members of the US Airways Clubs (all US airlines sell memberships to their lounges for US-based travelers).
Row 1 of Envoy lies flat; Rows 2-5 recline to maybe 160 degrees.
Mar 30, 2008, 8:18 pm
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BA will continue to garner contract traffic and people who are willing to pay for a premium service. US will get the dregs and anyone who still has a corporate contract.
US has to undercut BA on price. Nobody would select the US premium product (or even the coach product) if they were not cheaper than BA. It's very telling that (thus far), BA has not even thought about matching.
US has to undercut BA on price. Nobody would select the US premium product (or even the coach product) if they were not cheaper than BA. It's very telling that (thus far), BA has not even thought about matching.
Mar 30, 2008, 8:23 pm
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That's true -- but they don't always undercut the competition on price when they have to. Envoy is often more expensive to CDG than AF's business class (though it may just be the routings I fly). In the case of non-corporate discounted refundable business class PHL-LHR, though -- which is what I would fly -- Envoy isn't bad value, though the flight times are lousy.
I thought US got rid of all of their corporate contracts?
I thought US got rid of all of their corporate contracts?
Mar 30, 2008, 10:30 pm
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My company still has a contract with US (as well as UA and NW). Most of the time the price is about the same as the lowest I can get myself on the US website. Where it really helps is closer in, when the price can be a good 20-30% lower.
Mar 30, 2008, 11:18 pm
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If they did, they forgot to tell my travel dept and booking engine provider. As mentioned above, a long-ways out it's generally a wash with the best fare you could otherwise find--48 hours out it's a large difference, as it is with Envoy.
I can get refundable Envoy for what a typical "public" Z fare goes for, and a non-refundable Envoy for a relative pittance oftentimes (almost what it's worth--think $800-900 each way to someplace like LGW or GLA).
I can get refundable Envoy for what a typical "public" Z fare goes for, and a non-refundable Envoy for a relative pittance oftentimes (almost what it's worth--think $800-900 each way to someplace like LGW or GLA).
Apr 2, 2008, 3:51 pm
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At what LHR terminal are the US flights arriving?
I see the flights are a bit less expensive than to LGW.
Any benefits taking one over the other from PHL?
Thanks.
I see the flights are a bit less expensive than to LGW.
Any benefits taking one over the other from PHL?
Thanks.
Last edited by JanePond; Apr 2, 2008 at 3:52 pm Reason: Typo
Apr 2, 2008, 4:27 pm
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Obviously LHR is going to be much busier especially getting through customs but it is also 15 minutes closer to downtown London than LGW.
An advantge for LGW is flight time if you need to land earlier in the morning since the flight to LHR doesn't land until after 11am whereas the flight to LGW gets in before 9am.
One huge advantage that I see flying to LHR is the A333 flies the LHR route compared to flying a 752 into LGW. I can't see spending 8 hours on a 752. YMMV.
An advantge for LGW is flight time if you need to land earlier in the morning since the flight to LHR doesn't land until after 11am whereas the flight to LGW gets in before 9am.
One huge advantage that I see flying to LHR is the A333 flies the LHR route compared to flying a 752 into LGW. I can't see spending 8 hours on a 752. YMMV.
Apr 2, 2008, 6:13 pm
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