USAirways cuts flights from PIT
May 17, 2007, 5:46 am
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USAirways cuts flights from PIT
May 17, 2007, 6:53 am
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<< insert standard "loss of PIT" lament here >>
May 17, 2007, 7:12 am
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*shakes head* *sighs*
It's only a matter of time before SFO and LAX service disappear.
It's only a matter of time before SFO and LAX service disappear.
May 17, 2007, 7:32 am
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Time to move on
Well, that's great. Almost all of the cities on that list are corporate destinations for me. If I'm going to have to connect somewhere, it won't be on US.
Well done, Mr. Parker, well done. I hope the low-price seeking, non-loyal, fly-once-every-two-years-and-then-only-if-you're-cheaper-than-Southwest crowd continues to overlook your dirty planes, poor service, and ridiculous scheduling.
I'm out.
/rant
Well done, Mr. Parker, well done. I hope the low-price seeking, non-loyal, fly-once-every-two-years-and-then-only-if-you're-cheaper-than-Southwest crowd continues to overlook your dirty planes, poor service, and ridiculous scheduling.
I'm out.
/rant
May 17, 2007, 8:05 am
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This is indeed sad. When I fly US and have to connect I prefer to go through PIT than PHL, but that is becoming harder ad harder to do. 
I really like PIT as an airport, but it often feels like a ghost town.
I really like PIT as an airport, but it often feels like a ghost town.
May 17, 2007, 9:04 am
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Same here.....looks like I'll be connecting more, and it's guaranteed it will not be on US. With CLT becoming Charladephia, and PHL....well it's just PHL, I see CVG, IAD and ORD in my future.
May 17, 2007, 9:31 am
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Can't believe BUF and BWI are losing service. I can remember daily 757s on BWI-PIT just two or three years ago. Really shocking. Tempe seems to think that the "shrink it til its profitable" approach will work in PIT, but it never will.
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May 17, 2007, 10:08 am
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Ah yes, the good 'ole Southwest effect in action. I imagine that PIT doesn't have the largest local market, thus US was able to charge fairly high fares to maintain its operations in and out of PIT despite the lower demand for local service. When WN came and and lower the fares, the incentive for US to keep their operations there diminished dramatically, thus a reduction of service. People speak with their dollars and the people have spoken saying they'd would rather have the fares rather than the convience, so there you go.
May 17, 2007, 10:34 am
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If they don't go where I want to go, when I want to go, then I'll fly the carrier who does. I just took AA this morning because I'm returing Sat evening and US doesn't see fit to run even a dash-8 from LGA-PIT on Sat evenings. Now, the grass wasn't any greener, mind you, with AA's cramped CRJ on the route and hole of a terminal at LGA (I looked around, is there even an airside connection between AA's piers there?), but my flying is going to be driven incresingly by schedule and price, not loyalty.
May 17, 2007, 11:28 am
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Ah yes, the good 'ole Southwest effect in action. I imagine that PIT doesn't have the largest local market, thus US was able to charge fairly high fares to maintain its operations in and out of PIT despite the lower demand for local service. When WN came and and lower the fares, the incentive for US to keep their operations there diminished dramatically, thus a reduction of service. People speak with their dollars and the people have spoken saying they'd would rather have the fares rather than the convience, so there you go.
Also, in my experience, flights to most of these cities are PACKED on US. I just don't see where this "over capacity" is that they need to ditch service.
I just don't understand...
May 17, 2007, 11:46 am
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Remember when BWI was a hub. Well PIT will become what BWI is today in the not to distant future.
Very sad.
US is pulling it's flights because people are buying the cheapest ticket. US does not care about the business traveler anymore. PIT will probably eventually only see service to PH, LAS, DCA, LGA, PHL, CLT and maybe a handful of Florida cities.
I guess US was not seeing money made on the SAN and SEA routes.
With all the bad service that this carrier is giving people are leaving in droves and well there goes your connecting traffic. People are jumping ship to AA, DL, CO and all the others. They are tired of playing luggage roulette and tired of all the "We are so sorry". People will only take so much abuse before moving on.
There is no one to blame but US management.
T
Very sad.
US is pulling it's flights because people are buying the cheapest ticket. US does not care about the business traveler anymore. PIT will probably eventually only see service to PH, LAS, DCA, LGA, PHL, CLT and maybe a handful of Florida cities.
I guess US was not seeing money made on the SAN and SEA routes.
With all the bad service that this carrier is giving people are leaving in droves and well there goes your connecting traffic. People are jumping ship to AA, DL, CO and all the others. They are tired of playing luggage roulette and tired of all the "We are so sorry". People will only take so much abuse before moving on.
There is no one to blame but US management.
T
May 17, 2007, 12:21 pm
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And as an add on
http://postgazette.com/pg/07137/786843-100.stm
"Pitsburgh to lose 56 flight attendants"
http://postgazette.com/pg/07137/786843-100.stm
"Pitsburgh to lose 56 flight attendants"
May 17, 2007, 12:39 pm
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It Says.... Daily non-stops to PIT starting March 11. It was a WN banner. Doesn't look like it took long for WN to eat US's lunch again.
May 17, 2007, 12:48 pm
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Should we speculate who will fill the SEA-PIT void? WN? AS?
May 17, 2007, 1:15 pm
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No one will non-stop. It will be connections. As a PIT business flyer that's a big problem. Connections are such a pain and you can't get too many places without them, no matter which airline. Plus so many flights are on CRJ's, which are also a pain, literally.
I have seen a thread on either this board or on usaviation where part of the blame goes to the county. They refused to lower fees during the bankruptcy hearings. I think they thought other airlines would come in with big numbers. 10,000 jobs lost later and 400 flights, it really didn't happen. Whose administration did that happen under? Jim Roddey or Dan Onorato? I also wonder if "Slick Ed Rendell" had some input, his beloved Philadelphia got most of the benefits. I just have the impression that it's more than economics here, it's part political.
I have seen a thread on either this board or on usaviation where part of the blame goes to the county. They refused to lower fees during the bankruptcy hearings. I think they thought other airlines would come in with big numbers. 10,000 jobs lost later and 400 flights, it really didn't happen. Whose administration did that happen under? Jim Roddey or Dan Onorato? I also wonder if "Slick Ed Rendell" had some input, his beloved Philadelphia got most of the benefits. I just have the impression that it's more than economics here, it's part political.