I do not like new US Mastercard
#16
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: (near) Cambridge, MA
Programs: US GP (used to be *G, now,what)
Posts: 1,777
Originally Posted by Centurion
You either have a larger than normal credit card collection or very bad credit. Juniper/Barclays is known imho to give out very large credit lines on this product. Something is wrong with your credit profile imho. If you have a pulse they seem to give very large credit lines. More to this story..just not sure you may be aware.
When I asked Juniper for a larger limit for the same (not enough line problem, they said I was "too new" Given I have 4 times the line on my CN Card, I shrugged it off.
Good thing its free and I get 1.5 miles this year... I'll reconsider then...
#17
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Arizona USA
Programs: NetJets Marquis, Southwest Moo, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,652
Originally Posted by LowlyDLsilver
Kev:
Since you say it might matter, wachovia originated the electronic transfer, and the other payment was made by check. The funds for the check, wachovia had already deducted from my account when I made the call.
The Juniper reps acknowledged that they HAD received the funds (both electronic AND cleared check) from my bank, but they claimed that I could somehow "pull them back" within ten days if I asked my bank to do so. and as such they weren't going to allow me to use the card during that period. If there's any truth in that ... it could push check kiting to a brand new level.
Since you say it might matter, wachovia originated the electronic transfer, and the other payment was made by check. The funds for the check, wachovia had already deducted from my account when I made the call.
The Juniper reps acknowledged that they HAD received the funds (both electronic AND cleared check) from my bank, but they claimed that I could somehow "pull them back" within ten days if I asked my bank to do so. and as such they weren't going to allow me to use the card during that period. If there's any truth in that ... it could push check kiting to a brand new level.
I was very surprised about your comment of low credit line. Barclays has a history of providing a lot more than their competitors. They provided me with $35,000 off the bat. Perhaps they are looking at someone else's history? It happens!
#18
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 755
Originally Posted by KevAZ
Thanks for the insight, that does make a difference. Yes, there is a way to pull back funds through ePay. No idea of your situation but the only time a bank has grounds to freeze funds on the first transaction is if your history is showing numerous disputes.
I was very surprised about your comment of low credit line. Barclays has a history of providing a lot more than their competitors. They provided me with $35,000 off the bat. Perhaps they are looking at someone else's history? It happens!
I was very surprised about your comment of low credit line. Barclays has a history of providing a lot more than their competitors. They provided me with $35,000 off the bat. Perhaps they are looking at someone else's history? It happens!
BTW ... pulling back funds that were sent to cover an obligation such as a CC payment sounds like something we call "felony fraud" around these parts??
It's one thing sitting next to Bubba for an hour on a CRJ ... and quite another sitting next to him for years on a cot at the crowbar motel
Have a good one:
#19
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Arizona USA
Programs: NetJets Marquis, Southwest Moo, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,652
Originally Posted by LowlyDLsilver
BTW ... pulling back funds that were sent to cover an obligation such as a CC payment sounds like something we call "felony fraud" around these parts??
I would ask for a reason in writing from Barclays. You can take it from there. Good luck! ^
#20
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,373
Originally Posted by KevAZ
The error was corrected with Expo/Home Depot and all is well. But I did pull back $800 that month and a dispute was flagged. Not a problem to my credit history but it would be if they saw a regular pattern. It's an interesting scam that only lasts so long, but if my dispute went in the retailer's favor I can only guess that the "ding" would have had more weight.
Also, it's my understanding that transaction disputes on credit card accounts are not reported as part of your credit history, assuming that payments on the non-disputed amount are made on time. Can you give more information on why you believe they are?
#21
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SEA
Posts: 398
Originally Posted by LowlyDLsilver
Kev:
Since you say it might matter, wachovia originated the electronic transfer, and the other payment was made by check. The funds for the check, wachovia had already deducted from my account when I made the call.
Since you say it might matter, wachovia originated the electronic transfer, and the other payment was made by check. The funds for the check, wachovia had already deducted from my account when I made the call.
On the other hand, if you setup the payment through Juniper, they will initiate a ACH debit transaction on the due date to withdrawal money from your checking account, the payment is posted right away and won't hit your checking account until at least the next business day.
This is what I have been doing with all my credit cards, never had a single problem.
#22
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,373
Originally Posted by zlc
Here is the problem, you are using your banks bill payment function, right? This is equivelent to writing a check, not ACH!
#23
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SEA
Posts: 398
Originally Posted by 21A
Not always. Many banks do pay some payees electronically. (Citibank's site is nice in that it tells you which method will be used for a given payee. perhaps others do this too.) In any event, it should be possible to ask the bank how a particular payment was made.
#24
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Phoenix
Programs: UA1k;HH Gold;MR Gold
Posts: 6,112
I have been using Juniper since before US Airways. I have been very pleased with their service
And a note to the OP - overpaying by that much is often a "red flag"
And a note to the OP - overpaying by that much is often a "red flag"
#25
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,373
Originally Posted by zlc
There are paper checks and there are electronic checks, but it's still a check.
#26
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SEA
Posts: 398
Originally Posted by 21A
What do you mean by "electronic check"? If you mean a substitute check (in the Check-21 sense), then no, it's not the same thing as an ACH transfer at all.
#27
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 97
No problems at all with Juniper thus far -- though I've only had to deal with customer service to set up autopay and a few transaction questions.
For me a perfectly normal customer service experience thus far.
For me a perfectly normal customer service experience thus far.
#28
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,373
Originally Posted by zlc
An "electronic check" is basically a payment from Bank A to Bank B on behalf of customer A to customer B, the actual transfer of money may be done via ACH or the like between the two banks, but as far as customer B concerns, he just received a payment from customer A in the form of a check though no physical check was presented.
#29
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SEA
Posts: 398
Originally Posted by 21A
This is true, but in this case, I believe what I said before is still true: an ACH transfer is guaranteed funds and unlike presenting a paper check and waiting for it to clear, the bank has no reason to hold the funds after receiving the ACH. I may be wrong, though.
#30
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 778
I did not anticipate the flurry of responses.
In my case, I transfered as much as I could on a balance transfer to get the miles, then realized that I needed to buy a US Airways ticket, so I paid $500 electronic transfer from the Juniper Website, and it was credited the next day, but I still had insufficient available credit. I called, and was told that since this was my first payment, it would be "held" for 10 business days.
Now, I had a similar issue with Capital One, if I paid on their Website, but ~not~ if I paid from my bank's Website: I suppose COF sees the situation different if I originate a payment from their Website, or I send them (ACH) money from my bank's Website.
So, with this thought in mind, I sent $800 the next day from my bank's Website (ACH from Citibank). It took two days to post, and still no available credit. I called again, and was told that since I made two payments in a month, that my account would be reviewed for money laundering and that payment would be held for "10 to 14 days."
I waited another week, and made another payment (hoping...) and still no available credit. So, 1-1/2 weeks later, I called again, and asked, "is there nothing you can do to free-up some of my credit line so I can buy a US Airways ticket." "No."
This is why I call the US Airways MasterCard, "customer dis-service." I cut the card up and closed the account. I did, however, in my 3 weeks as a customer earn nearly 20,000 miles.
In my case, I transfered as much as I could on a balance transfer to get the miles, then realized that I needed to buy a US Airways ticket, so I paid $500 electronic transfer from the Juniper Website, and it was credited the next day, but I still had insufficient available credit. I called, and was told that since this was my first payment, it would be "held" for 10 business days.
Now, I had a similar issue with Capital One, if I paid on their Website, but ~not~ if I paid from my bank's Website: I suppose COF sees the situation different if I originate a payment from their Website, or I send them (ACH) money from my bank's Website.
So, with this thought in mind, I sent $800 the next day from my bank's Website (ACH from Citibank). It took two days to post, and still no available credit. I called again, and was told that since I made two payments in a month, that my account would be reviewed for money laundering and that payment would be held for "10 to 14 days."
I waited another week, and made another payment (hoping...) and still no available credit. So, 1-1/2 weeks later, I called again, and asked, "is there nothing you can do to free-up some of my credit line so I can buy a US Airways ticket." "No."
This is why I call the US Airways MasterCard, "customer dis-service." I cut the card up and closed the account. I did, however, in my 3 weeks as a customer earn nearly 20,000 miles.