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Note: this thread replaces the thread in the US forum on automatic upgrades on US flights. The latest of these threads is here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-airways-dividend-miles-pre-consolidation/1642741-us-automatic-upgrades-elite-master-thread-2015-a.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/us-airways-dividend-miles-pre-consolidation/1642741-us-automatic-upgrades-elite-master-thread-2015-a.html
AAdvantage Automatic Upgrades on US-operated flights (new program 2015)
#61
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 5
US Airways Chairman Preferred Seeing Fewer Comp Upgrades Since Combining Programs
So we are about a month in to the official merger of the US Airways Dividend Miles and American Advantage Programs. As a long time loyal member of the "acquiring" airline, US Airways and a top tier Chairman Preferred, I was disappointed to see that the complimentary upgrades would now be processed 4 days before departure compared to the usual 7 days. Another big change I have noticed is that before the merger, I would say I received an upgrade on at least 95% of my flights. Since the merger, the upgrade frequency has been reduced significantly (around 40-50%) and the upgrades that do come through, don't process until about 24 hours prior. All flights have been US Air booked, through US Air and marketed as US Air. I fly a lot and I am loyal to one airline so I look forward to my upgrades which seem to be few and far between now. Anyone else experiencing this?
#62
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: US Chairman, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 90
I'm 13 for13 on Upgrades...
since the "merger"...but I am not wild about the 4-day window. Obviously, they want to sell seats....I don't blame them for that. Also, the 4-day window shouldn't be as a surprise because they announced it months ago.
Of course, as to the "acquiring airline"....you're joking, right?
Of course, as to the "acquiring airline"....you're joking, right?
#63
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SAN
Programs: AA-EXP; US-Silver; Marriott-Platinum; Starwood-Platinum; Hilton-Gold
Posts: 1,260
It's a business so of course they took the best profit sharing models from both airlines. Though there was a loss of some long time favored benefits for US members the upgrade in premium service and cabins I would think will be a great addition.
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#64
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EP 3MM, UA Silver, Bonvoy LT TIT, Hyatt Explorist, HH Silver, Caesars PLT
Posts: 7,259
I received a thumbs down email today regarding an upgrade to a US flight that is 8 days away. I thought that was weird since it's impossible to get a thumbs up prior to 4 days out.
#65
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Scottsdale
Programs: USA CP, AA, UAL, BA, DLTA
Posts: 175
I have noticed the same thing. It used to be that I would receive an email seven days in advance of a trip telling me whether an upgrade is available. Now nothing. You are put on an upgrade list and don't know whether you have been upgraded until you board the plane. Very disappointing.
#66
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AA EXP; 1W Emerald; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold; UA dirt
Posts: 7,811
I used to get those during the pre-merger period. Very odd.
Anyhow, AAdmiral Gnome granted me a partial wish this morning at about 4:30 with an upgrade to SJU. No upgrade on DCA-CLT, but I can live with that.
Anyhow, AAdmiral Gnome granted me a partial wish this morning at about 4:30 with an upgrade to SJU. No upgrade on DCA-CLT, but I can live with that.
#67
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: BOS, Latin America
Programs: AA Plat
Posts: 712
It's a numbers game; makes sense.
Other issue is that AA's revenue management algorithm is probably working hard to understand all the new US routes/demand patterns. Upgrades will open up further out as greater certainly is achieved.
Frankly I don't blame AA for canning upgrades 7 days out. I typically book my work flights 5 days in advance and I fly paid F about half the time.
Other issue is that AA's revenue management algorithm is probably working hard to understand all the new US routes/demand patterns. Upgrades will open up further out as greater certainly is achieved.
Frankly I don't blame AA for canning upgrades 7 days out. I typically book my work flights 5 days in advance and I fly paid F about half the time.
#68
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,523
Also, AA (supposedly) has a noticeably higher percentage of elites, so while the pond may be bigger now, it's also more crowded.
#69
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: SAN
Programs: AA-EXP; US-Silver; Marriott-Platinum; Starwood-Platinum; Hilton-Gold
Posts: 1,260
#70
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Phoenix/Columbus
Programs: Delta Silver Medallion, United Gold, US Airways silver
Posts: 1,717
Upgrades on US Airways operated flights after October 2015
On another thread, it was stated that US Airways complementary upgrades on US Airways operated flights would end in October and the 500 mile sticker method for upgrades would be used system-wide.
I have still been getting 72 hour upgrades on US Airways flights (usually) and am hoping that continues through the summer. I just booked flights for Thanksgiving and Christmas on flights that are currently US Airways operated (to and from PHX/CMH).
Questions:
I have still been getting 72 hour upgrades on US Airways flights (usually) and am hoping that continues through the summer. I just booked flights for Thanksgiving and Christmas on flights that are currently US Airways operated (to and from PHX/CMH).
Questions:
- Is the assumption that complementary upgrade on US Airways by November and December will end still correct?
- Is 15,000 miles + $75 each way better than 4 x 500 mile stickers each way with the chance they will not clear for an upgrade?
#71
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,698
2) I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but the miles+copay allows upgrading arbitrarily far in advance as long as there's A (or C) inventory available so you can lock in an upgrade way in advance of the sticker upgrade window.
#72
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Phoenix/Columbus
Programs: Delta Silver Medallion, United Gold, US Airways silver
Posts: 1,717
1) Yes. So far the merger has been going on according to schedule (or a little faster), so you should expect that the US reservation/upgrade system will be gone by late in the year.
2) I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but the miles+copay allows upgrading arbitrarily far in advance as long as there's A (or C) inventory available so you can lock in an upgrade way in advance of the sticker upgrade window.
2) I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but the miles+copay allows upgrading arbitrarily far in advance as long as there's A (or C) inventory available so you can lock in an upgrade way in advance of the sticker upgrade window.
- When to upgrades clear with 500 mile stickers if requested on the reservation?
Thanks!
#73
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2006
Programs: AAdvantage PP
Posts: 13,913
Thanks, Jodyn. You understood correctly, but two more questions as an AA newby:
Thanks!
- When to upgrades clear with 500 mile stickers if requested on the reservation?
Thanks!
As far as upgrade odds, there is no set standard or percentage. Its all going to be route, day of travel and time of travel specific. However, over the past four months I am about 80% on US upgrades, much better than AA.
#74
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: AA CK, SPG100 Platinum, Marriott Platinum Premier, Hilton Gold
Posts: 46
Where did the USAirways upgrades go?
I have been a USAirways Chairman's preferred for several years, and am now an Executive Platinum. Last year my upgrade percentage was very close to 100%. Through the first quarter of this year, it was still over 90% -- even initially after the FF programs combined it stayed high.
All of the sudden in the last 2-3 weeks it's gone to near 0. I'm taking the same flights each week, and they have always been easy upgrades. Now, the upgrades have all but disappeared.
What happened? Have other people experienced the same thing? last week I did see at least one executive Platinum know who did not get upgraded either. This seems fishy.
In the case of these flights, the FC cabin shows as full or very close to full before the upgrade window even arrives. What I expected to happen as the merger continues is for things to be more like AA -- holding more upgrades until the gate. That doesn't appear to be what I am seeing here, as by the time we get the day of the flight the FC cabin is full.
Are they selling the seats? It seems a bit surprising that all of the sudden they would start selling out all of the seats.
Another thing I should note -- I'm no longer getting the Upgrade Status emails. Not even with the downward facing thumb. That makes me wonder if something else is wrong.
All of the sudden in the last 2-3 weeks it's gone to near 0. I'm taking the same flights each week, and they have always been easy upgrades. Now, the upgrades have all but disappeared.
What happened? Have other people experienced the same thing? last week I did see at least one executive Platinum know who did not get upgraded either. This seems fishy.
In the case of these flights, the FC cabin shows as full or very close to full before the upgrade window even arrives. What I expected to happen as the merger continues is for things to be more like AA -- holding more upgrades until the gate. That doesn't appear to be what I am seeing here, as by the time we get the day of the flight the FC cabin is full.
Are they selling the seats? It seems a bit surprising that all of the sudden they would start selling out all of the seats.
Another thing I should note -- I'm no longer getting the Upgrade Status emails. Not even with the downward facing thumb. That makes me wonder if something else is wrong.
Last edited by brianz24; Apr 28, 2015 at 11:47 am
#75
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: PBI/FLL/MIA
Programs: DL DM/2MM, MR Ambassador, National EE
Posts: 1,614
I think that RM is following the DL FCM program more and more... I am seeing a lot of solid bargains at A and P these days and grabbing them, far more than I used to...