AA & US Single Operating Certificate - April 8 2015

 
Old Mar 21, 15, 12:47 pm
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AA & US Single Operating Certificate - April 8 2015

According to another popular aviation forum (I know, hearsay), the Cactus callsign's last day of use is April 7th, with an SOC on April 8th.

So, I'm guessing the last official US flight would be a redeye of sorts...looking at the schedule online I see flight 675 at the latest choice:

675 10:50 PM HNL 7:48 AM PHX
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Old Mar 21, 15, 1:50 pm
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I thought only the DM/AA programs were merging in April, but the SOC wouldn't be until later this year.
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Old Mar 21, 15, 1:54 pm
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The callsign won't go away until they get a combined operating certificate from the FAA, which they think will happen some time this fall. Until then they are still two separate airlines.
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Old Mar 21, 15, 1:57 pm
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http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...nference.html/

Looks like April for SOC.
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Old Mar 22, 15, 1:51 am
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I heard from a 767 captain that it would be April 15 for SOC. Yes I realize US no longer has 767 captains so take that with a grain of salt.
I am also rather sure that PHL-TLV will be the last to land using Cactus.

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Old Mar 22, 15, 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto View Post
I heard from a 767 captain that it would be April 15 for SOC. Yes I realize US no longer has 767 captains so take that with a grain of salt.
I am also rather sure that PHL-TLV will be the last to land using Cactus.
PHL TLV lands at 315pm TLV time or 1215z
the latter HNL PHX lands at 748am PHX time or 1448z

edit to add: but, just did the math HNL PHX actually leaves at 1050pm HNL time or 850z. So, I wonder when the reset is, midnight PHX time or some other time in the early AM to account for redeye departures. Midnight PHX time=700z
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Old Mar 22, 15, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by iztok View Post
Wow, that would be quite a bit earlier than predicted if it pans out. But with the reservations systems not merged yet, I expect flight will still have to be sold as US flights for a while even if SOC materializes in April.
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Old Mar 22, 15, 12:19 pm
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I was told April 8th from a senior FA last weekend.
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Old Mar 22, 15, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by mcatp View Post
I was told April 8th from a senior FA last weekend.
If a Senior FA told you, then it must be true.
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Old Mar 22, 15, 1:48 pm
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So up until the end of the schedule, everything is still operated by US Airways or US Airways Express. When one SOC is obtained, do they all switch to operated by American or American Eagle?
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Old Mar 22, 15, 2:11 pm
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Any official source directly from the airline confirming this is true? Would seem very early if so. I also didn't think it would be until the fall.
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Old Mar 22, 15, 3:05 pm
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The initial merger announcement said the SOC would take 18-24 months, but I noticed this article from last summer reports AA's plan is for a SOC in 2Q, so that theoretically could be in April. However, every report refers to integration of the res systems as taking much longer (likely intentionally, so as to prevent another CO/UA mess). It's funny that this mentions US flight numbers disappearing, when it seems that they've been adopted by AA for some time. Are there some flights that actually do not have the same AA and US number? Perhaps it simply meant US-coded flights, not the actual numbers.
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Old Mar 22, 15, 3:51 pm
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The link posted above by iztok above quoted AA President Scott Kirby as expecting SOC in April. The linked blog entry is from March 3.
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Originally Posted by ty97 View Post
The link posted above by iztok above quoted AA President Scott Kirby as expecting SOC in April. The linked blog entry is from March 3.
Thanks. That link was in plain sight and I clearly missed it!
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Old Mar 22, 15, 4:13 pm
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AirTran and Southwest got their single operating certificate on March 1, 2012, but the airlines had flights under separate names until late December 2014. So the US brand can be expected to continue.
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