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USA based airlines flights to Tel Aviv / TLV / Ben Gurion International Airport have been suspended temporarily by the FAA.

US Airways Tel Aviv Travel Policy 2014
7/20/2014 3:51 PM ET
Cities Affected
Tel Aviv, Israel (Ben Gurion Int'l Airport)
Date Range
7/9/2014 6:00 PM ET through 7/31/2014 11:59 PM ET
Revised Ticket Policy
We’ve relaxed our change-fee policies. If your trip is affected, you can
change your trip online (in most cases) -- we’ll waive your change fees!

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Here’s how:
 
• Book the same origin and destination
• If you are scheduled to travel July 9 - 31, your travel date may be
changed to travel July 9 – August 31.
 
You may have to pay to change your trip if:
 
• You change your origin and/or destination
• Your travel is outside the dates listed above
• There is a difference in fare
 
Please call if:
 
• Part or all of your trip is on another airline
• You don’t see a ‘Change my trip’ link when you pull up your reservation
 
Change your trip online at usairways.com/manageyourtrip
 
If you need help, please call 800-428-4322.
 
Travel Agents, please refer to the link below.
http://www.usairways.com/en-US/traveltools/specialneeds/weather.html
 
·         OSI US LWGEB200714L

FAA order has been extended for another 24 hours (effective 23 Jul 2014):

23 JUL 2014 NOTAM:

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FDC 4/4226-SECURITY ISRAEL POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS SITUATION 
ISRAEL AIRSPACE THIS NOTAM REPLACES NOTAM 4/3630 TO UPDATE 
EFFECTIVE TIME. DUE TO THE POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS SITUATION 
CREATED BY THE ARMED CONFLICT IN ISRAEL AND GAZA, ALL FLIGHT 
OPERATIONS TO/FROM BEN GURION INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT (LLBG) BY 
U.S. OPERATORS ARE PROHIBITED FOR UP TO 24 HOURS.

A. APPLICABILITY. THIS NOTAM APPLIES TO ALL U.S. AIR CARRIERS OR 
COMMERCIAL OPERATORS, ALL PERSONS EXERCISING THE PRIVILEGES OF 
AN AIRMAN CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY THE FAA EXCEPT SUCH PERSONS 
OPERATING U.S.-REGISTERED AIRCRAFT FOR A FOREIGN AIR CARRIER, 
AND ALL OPERATORS OF AIRCRAFT REGISTERED IN THE UNITED STATES 
EXCEPT WHERE THE OPERATOR OF SUCH AIRCRAFT IS A FOREIGN AIR 
CARRIER. 

B. PERMITTED OPERATIONS. THIS NOTAM DOES NOT PROHIBIT PERSONS 
DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPH A FROM CONDUCTING FLIGHT OPERATIONS 
WITHIN THE TERRITORY AND AIRSPACE OF ISRAEL WHEN SUCH 
OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED EITHER BY ANOTHER AGENCY OF THE 
UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT WITH THE END PART 1 OF 2. 23 JUL 16:15 
2014 UNTIL 24 JUL 16:15 2014 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 23 JUL 16:12 2014

FDC 4/4226-SECURITY APPROVAL OF THE FAA OR BY A DEVIATION, 
EXEMPTION, OR OTHER AUTHORIZATION ISSUED BY THE 
ADMINISTRATOR. OPERATORS SHOULD CALL THE DOMESTIC EVENTS 
NETWORK (DEN) AT 202-493-5107 FOR AUTHORIZATION. 

C. EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. IN AN EMERGENCY THAT REQUIRES 
IMMEDIATE DECISION AND ACTION FOR THE SAFETY OF THE FLIGHT, THE 
PILOT IN COMMAND OF AN AIRCRAFT MAY DEVIATE FROM THIS NOTAM TO 
THE EXTENT REQUIRED BY THAT EMERGENCY.

THIS NOTAM WILL BE UPDATED WITHIN 24 HOURS. OPERATORS SHOULD 
CONTINUE TO MONITOR U.S. NOTAMS FOR CHANGES OR UPDATES. END 
PART 2 OF 2. 23 JUL 16:15 2014 UNTIL 24 JUL 16:15 2014 ESTIMATED. 

CREATED: 23 JUL 16:12 2014

oneworld airlines BA and IB (as well as LY / El Al) and others continue operations to / from TLV.

Updated 23 July 2014

US Airways Suspends Daily Flight From US to Tel Aviv

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Jul 22, 2014, 11:45 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by craz

The stuff hamas is using isnt guided so Id have better odds in winning the lottery then them hitting a plane.

Aside from the lucky hit, Israel's anti-missile defense shield interecpts the majority of inbound rockets. However, that causes the problem of the combined debris falling. Flying through that could ruin your day.

Jim

Jul 22, 2014, 11:53 am

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Originally Posted by craz

true but surely they will want to be on it . Id say its safer for them to fly out on their metal on a non-passenger flight

Agreed. I would much rather take my chances on an empty US A330 as opposed to riding through Israel on a bus or some other means of transportation.

Jul 22, 2014, 11:59 am

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Originally Posted by cedric

FAs wouldn't be required for a ferry flight.

They're not required to operate the flight, but this would be the obvious way how they'd get back home right away.

Jul 22, 2014, 12:18 pm

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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist

They're not required to operate the flight, but this would be the obvious way how they'd get back home right away.

or they could jump onto any LY flight heading out to Europe and then onto another carrier back to the US.Or even 1 of LYs non-stops to EWR or JFK. as Ly is still flying its flights as are some other carriers at least for takeoffs out of TLV

Jul 22, 2014, 12:41 pm

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Unless ICAO or Israel issues a prohibation, the FAA notam doesn't affect non-U.S. carriers.

Jim

Jul 22, 2014, 1:13 pm

#21

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With all the cancelled flights, I am surprised to see that there is still some space to TLV on AB, BA, IB, & RJ. I'd think that US would have taken many of the seats that had been open.

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Originally Posted by cedric

FAs wouldn't be required for a ferry flight.

But a permit would be required to ferry the flight.

Last edited by Indelaware; Jul 22, 2014 at 1:22 pm

Jul 22, 2014, 2:46 pm

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Originally Posted by GNRMatt

Out of curiosity, what will US (and the other airlines) do with their planes that were supposed to be flying there?

Depends how long the suspension lasts. A few days and the extra A332s will just be spares or perhaps do something like replace a 757 if there's a bigger cargo load they can haul on short notice.

If TLV remains down for a while, you would see some shuffling of the widebody fleet.

That said, some flexibility in the A330-200 fleet might be useful, as N282AY seems still under repair after this incident in early June: http://www.avherald.com/h?article=47576ca2&opt=0

The aircraft US will have to ferry out of TLV is N281AY, which operated US 796 last night: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...110Z/KPHL/LLBG

Jul 22, 2014, 6:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Indelaware

But a permit would be required to ferry the flight.

Normally not necessarily. A ferry permit is normally only required when something is wrong with the plane but the FAA can be convenience that it's safe enough to fly to a maintenance base where repairs can be made.

In this case, the plane would be in good shape (barring a lucky hit by Hamas) but the conditions in and above TLV caused the notam barring flights. So an exception to the notam would have to come from the FAA.

The potential problem with rerouting passengers, aside for how long this lasts, is that every U.S. carrier will be rerouting their TLV passengers. Available seats on other carriers may go quickly.

Jim

Jul 22, 2014, 8:56 pm

#24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BoeingBoy

Yes, exactly. Note that I didn't say a "ferry permit," but rather a "permit to ferry the flight" which would be needed in light of the NOTAM - e.g. an authorization or exception.

Last edited by Indelaware; Jul 22, 2014 at 9:05 pm