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YiFeng Hu Apr 30, 2014 4:54 pm

thanks! Is 1 stop over+1 open jaw allowed?

Then this can be redeemed with either US or UA miels.

wheresmybagba Apr 30, 2014 5:31 pm


Originally Posted by YiFeng Hu (Post 22788509)
thanks! Is 1 stop over+1 open jaw allowed?

No. One stop over OR one open jaw.

eponymous_coward Apr 30, 2014 5:41 pm


Originally Posted by YiFeng Hu (Post 22788509)
thanks! Is 1 stop over+1 open jaw allowed?

Then this can be redeemed with either US or UA miels.

Potentially, yes. It could also be redeemed as a oneworld partner award on US, for example:

LAX-NRT(JL or AA)-KUL-DPS(MH)-HKG-CTU(CX) or WUH(KA)-HKG-LAX(CX).

rrgg May 2, 2014 10:06 am

I read the comments here that non-oneworld partners cannot be mixed with oneworld partners on an award.

However if I pay for the 2 separate awards can they be put in one PNR? For example an IB flight and an A3 flight. Has anyone tried this? My guess is even that is not allowed, but it would be nice to protect me from a missed connection. Thanks.

eponymous_coward May 2, 2014 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by rrgg (Post 22798318)
I read the comments here that non-oneworld partners cannot be mixed with oneworld partners on an award.

However if I pay for the 2 separate awards can they be put in one PNR? For example an IB flight and an A3 flight. Has anyone tried this? My guess is even that is not allowed, but it would be nice to protect me from a missed connection. Thanks.

How is having one PNR and two tickets going to protect you from a missed connection, especially if you're flying two different airlines in two different alliances, where they might not have systems that talk to each other? :confused:

Keep in mind that a US PNR =! OAL PNR, what counts is the ticket (and separate award=separate ticket on 037 ticket stock). I have booked tickets on US before. There's always a separate PNR for other airlines that I use to get the seat reservation, etc...

rrgg May 2, 2014 2:44 pm

Sorry. I meant to write "one ticket" not "one PNR." I guess maybe this won't work. (I do know IB/A3 at least had an interline agreement the last time I flew this a few years ago, just nothing about ticketing agreements.)

RealHJ May 2, 2014 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 22799942)
How is having one PNR and two tickets going to protect you from a missed connection, especially if you're flying two different airlines in two different alliances, where they might not have systems that talk to each other? :confused:

Practically all the airlines (a few small regional LCCs excepted) "talk" to each other and have baggage interline agreements with each other, being in the same "alliance" or not is by no means a requirement. You can easily have one ticket with SkyTeam, Star Alliance, One World and "non-alliance" airline flights, and they will all see it and honour it accordingly (as is typical, each airline will normally only see the flight immediately preceeding its own and not the earlier ones).

eponymous_coward May 2, 2014 5:20 pm


Originally Posted by rrgg (Post 22800014)
Sorry. I meant to write "one ticket" not "one PNR." I guess maybe this won't work. (I do know IB/A3 at least had an interline agreement the last time I flew this a few years ago, just nothing about ticketing agreements.)

Awards and tickets map 1-1- two awards = two separate tickets. US is not allowing OW partners and non-OW partners to mix on the same ticket. Thus you can book two awards, but you will not be protected since they will be two tickets. Finis.


Originally Posted by RealHJ (Post 22800278)
Practically all the airlines (a few small regional LCCs excepted) "talk" to each other and have baggage interline agreements with each other, being in the same "alliance" or not is by no means a requirement. You can easily have one ticket with SkyTeam, Star Alliance, One World and "non-alliance" airline flights, and they will all see it and honour it accordingly (as is typical, each airline will normally only see the flight immediately preceeding its own and not the earlier ones).

Right, but two awards, one PNR = two tickets (for instance, two awards out of same account, same flights, two different people = one PNR, two tickets). I'm not talking about one ticket that goes across multiple airlines. If you have a US award for A3, you won't be protected if you show up late for your IB flight on a second award, because it will be on a separate ticket.

RealHJ May 2, 2014 5:36 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 22800691)
Right, but two awards, one PNR = two tickets (for instance, two awards out of same account, same flights, two different people = one PNR, two tickets). I'm not talking about one ticket that goes across multiple airlines. If you have a US award for A3, you won't be protected if you show up late for your IB flight on a second award, because it will be on a separate ticket.

You are, of course, correct. I must have misread what you meant. I just never thought that one PNR can refer to two tickets (in fact, I am pretty sure it can't, other than to multiple tickets on the same itinerary where it's 2 or 3 sequential ticket #s if it's >4 or >8 flights, respectively, or if the tickets have been reissued on it). So, I was assuming one PNR = one ticket, or, to be fully correct, one set of tickets, keeping in mind that max 4 flights per ticket #, so if more than 4 flights, it's actually two tickets, if more than 8, it's actually 3.

While I may be wrong, I am quite certain that PNRs are automatically generated and that one cannot combine multiple itineraries (separate tickets or sets of tickets) on one PNR... at least, not natively, may be one "master" PNR that links to the other two "real" PNRs? But that is just pure speculation. (But, would a US res. agent know how to do that, if so is actually possible? Almost surely not, I'd say.)

SkyTeam777 May 3, 2014 9:59 am

Is US pretty strict about making connections in another zone? I am going Nagoya-Bishkek (all North Asia), but the connection has to be in Istanbul (Europe)...wonder how strict they are with that.

eponymous_coward May 3, 2014 10:46 am


Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 (Post 22803453)
Is US pretty strict about making connections in another zone? I am going Nagoya-Bishkek (all North Asia), but the connection has to be in Istanbul (Europe)...wonder how strict they are with that.

If this is in response to your other post, that award cannot be booked (no mixing non-OW/OW partners).

That being said... S7 is a OW member. So Nagoya-Bishkek might be possible on an all-OW itinerary. ;)

pbd456 May 3, 2014 12:37 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 22803636)
If this is in response to your other post, that award cannot be booked (no mixing non-OW/OW partners).

That being said... S7 is a OW member. So Nagoya-Bishkek might be possible on an all-OW itinerary. ;)

I booked ticket to Bishkek via IST before from HKG/NRT.
but it is a matter of luck.

eponymous_coward May 3, 2014 11:47 pm


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 22804085)
I booked ticket to Bishkek via IST before from HKG/NRT.
but it is a matter of luck.

Was this prior to or post the 3/31 switch?

I still think an S7 connection might be... interesting. S7 serves FRA, you know. ;)

fenix8o0 May 6, 2014 7:09 am

I'm looking to book a RT stopover on Aegean and skipping the return leg. I couldn't find a wiki on where to search availability. Could someone point me in the right direction?

eponymous_coward May 6, 2014 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by fenix8o0 (Post 22818117)
I'm looking to book a RT stopover on Aegean and skipping the return leg. I couldn't find a wiki on where to search availability. Could someone point me in the right direction?

Use the NH site.


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