dcsnowwake

Woohoo, return changes from 767 toA330!!
Much better seats, stoked to get an award seat!
Here to a change to GIG in June!

McSam18

By your title, here I thought you were referring to a Boeing 767-330 ER

BoeingBoy

Ahhh, the hybrid Boebus 767-330ER...

Just kidding you. Depending on when the FIFA cup is, there may be time for other changes before then as the integration of routes/schedules takes place and AA is getting more 777-300s.

Jim

FlyIgglesFly

Second week of June to second week of July. Otherwise known as "the time when I will be functionally worthless in the workplace."

Piedmont767

The A332 will offically stay on CLT-GRU, if the crew in CLT crew lounge are right.

BoeingBoy

The only thing that would make that rumor less trustworthy is if it came from the training department. I remember the 737 training department head saying that Wolf's narrow-body order was a done deal, US was definitely going to order 737NG's...

Instead, US got "more Airbuses than God can count" as Wolf put it after the order had been placed.

Jim

fly747first

^^^^

PHL

If the rumors are true about the US 767 fleet being retired during 2014, then there's a pretty strong chance of the 330 staying on the route unless/until AA starts mixing fleets and crews between carriers (e.g. fly CLT-GIG with a 767-300 or 777-200).

BoeingBoy

I wouldn't count of the US 767s to be gone by the end of next year. While the US/AA merger MOU doesn't have any minimum fleet size requirements like currently in place there is a minimum block hour requirement. There aren't enough new Airbuses coming to make up for losing the block hours the 767s fly.

Jim

phlwookie

Someone recently mentioned that the leases on the ten remaining (originally 12) 767s had been extended, though for how long I don't know. It was probably relatively low cost to do so. Had they not been the original plan had been to retire at least 3 by now; 5 new A330-200s were to be delivered this year. Four had been last I checked and the fifth may already be on properly or should be soon and is presumably N290AY if they follow this numbering scheme:

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/U...ctive-a330.htm

BoeingBoy

As of 10-23 when the last investor update came out, 3 of the 5 A332s had arrived and the other two were still expected prior to the end of the year. IIRC, that leaves 2-3 A332s left for delivery next year but the guidance doesn't go into next year.

It also calls for all 10 767s to remain on the property till the end of this year, with no indication of what will happen after that.

There are (were?) 3 more A321s coming this year for a total of 16 of those, but a reduction of 2 A320s by the end of the year.

So unless a lot of narrow-body Airbuses arrive next year, and I don't think that many are scheduled, they can't park many 767s and meet the minimum block hour requirement of the MOU - taking 1 long haul plane out of service takes adding several domestic planes to make up the block hours.

Jim

dcsnowwake

Now let's change GIG for my flight down on the 11th.
Stoked for Fridays draw, got my airline tickets, got my USmnt tickets through the first knockout, now where will we play.

PVDtoDEL

767-330ER would be Lufthansa/Condor.

McSam18

True! I think Condor is the last commercial operator of the 767-330ER in the world.

BoeingBoy

As a passenger transport, it's definitely possible. For those that don't know the "30" is the airline identifier that Boeing uses for Condor orders which specifies how a plane is to be configured with seats, lavs. galleys, etc. Condor also operates some 757-330s, meaning a 757-300 configured to Condor specs.

Jim