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US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
Dec 8, 13, 9:45 am - Wikipost
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Jul 30, 13, 2:34 pm
#1126
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PHL
Programs: AA(Plat), UA, AGR, BW(Plat), HH, WoH(D), IHG, MAR
Posts: 750
Originally Posted by 3Cforme
A day flight to LHR from where?
I think the big issue with the day flight is poor aircraft utilization. BA and VS can make it work with onward flights in the late evening. For a carrier like US, a flight getting into LHR at 8pm really has nowhere to go until the morning. Then it obviously can't get back to PHL in time to cover the morning flight back to LHR.
Jul 30, 13, 3:37 pm
#1127
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 2,268
Originally Posted by PHLviaUS
I think the big issue with the day flight is poor aircraft utilization. BA and VS can make it work with onward flights in the late evening. For a carrier like US, a flight getting into LHR at 8pm really has nowhere to go until the morning. Then it obviously can't get back to PHL in time to cover the morning flight back to LHR.
Jul 30, 13, 3:45 pm
#1128
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: PHL
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Lifetime Plat, SPG Plat, AMEX Plat, Hertz PC, Travels too Much Platinum
Posts: 3,290
Time will tell whether there would be demand for this, and the amount of valid connections into PHL before it were to leave would also be a big factor - in spite of PHL's decent local traffic, it doesn't rival NYC on London traffic, and there really isn't much in the way of onward late evening connections from LHR either. You already covered the aircraft utilization issue, though I would expect landing slots to be (much, much) cheaper for an evening arrival. This may not be the case for an early morning westbound departure.
From the business traveler perspective, this effectively wastes a day, though I do sympathize with the issues of leaving in the evening and arriving in London in the morning for some in terms of adjusting to the new time zone. Just because I can easily travel 5-7 time zones and land in Europe and function the next day doesn't mean everyone can.
From the business traveler perspective, this effectively wastes a day, though I do sympathize with the issues of leaving in the evening and arriving in London in the morning for some in terms of adjusting to the new time zone. Just because I can easily travel 5-7 time zones and land in Europe and function the next day doesn't mean everyone can.
Jul 30, 13, 5:14 pm
#1129
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New York,NY
Posts: 70
Originally Posted by PHL
My assumption is the OP was thinking PHL once the merger is done.
Jul 30, 13, 7:29 pm
#1130
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CAE,AGS
Programs: AAExP, Hyatt Globalist, HHonors Gold, ICHPlat, MarriottR, SPG Gold
Posts: 3,115
Originally Posted by ellinj
biggest thing I will miss assuming it isn't adopted by AA is cheap mileage upgrades. 9k and no copay is cheap money to guarantee an upgrade on a transcon. AA seems to be 15k plus a $75 copay.
Jul 30, 13, 9:16 pm
#1131
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: in the vicinity of SFO
Programs: AA PLT 1MM
Posts: 18,742
Originally Posted by miffSC
^ There will be a lot of things to be missed if the program leans towards the AA side of things... affordable upgrades, I agree, is definitely one of them.
Jul 31, 13, 2:21 am
#1132
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: WAS via RDU, FLL, PHL and TYO
Programs: UA Gold, Hilton Dia, Radisson Gold, Hertz 5*
Posts: 3,875
Originally Posted by phlwookie
From the business traveler perspective, this effectively wastes a day, though I do sympathize with the issues of leaving in the evening and arriving in London in the morning for some in terms of adjusting to the new time zone.
Jul 31, 13, 8:37 am
#1133
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: OneSky Alliance Elite+ with Zirconium and oak leaf cluster, Braniff Unobtainium
Posts: 18,522
Originally Posted by PWMTrav
Well, no, but it's the idea that since everyone isn't getting upgraded automatically, there may be more upgrade space available for those that do want to request it for that flight.
I'm in the 75% range as a Silver as well, but my hope is that maybe I'll now have a shot at some of those BOS-PHX or CLT-XXX legs - both from the BOS-PHX connecting traffic getting partially offloaded to BOS-DFW for connections and the people not requesting upgrades for whatever reason. I could do without some of the PWM-DCA/PHL upgrades if it means a shot at some longer flights in F.
Now, if the above is wishful thinking, you can just tell me that and I'll accept it.
I'm in the 75% range as a Silver as well, but my hope is that maybe I'll now have a shot at some of those BOS-PHX or CLT-XXX legs - both from the BOS-PHX connecting traffic getting partially offloaded to BOS-DFW for connections and the people not requesting upgrades for whatever reason. I could do without some of the PWM-DCA/PHL upgrades if it means a shot at some longer flights in F.
Now, if the above is wishful thinking, you can just tell me that and I'll accept it.
Jul 31, 13, 9:15 am
#1134
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SFO
Posts: 3,603
Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
I'm doubtful this happens; the flights people will want to burn stickers on will be transcons.
Jul 31, 13, 9:17 am
#1135
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: LHR
Programs: Ex-NWA Plat
Posts: 1,445
Early 2014 transition from *A to OW
http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...e-done-by-2014
Announcement for the approximate date of the changeover from Star Alliance to One World for US Airways
Announcement for the approximate date of the changeover from Star Alliance to One World for US Airways
Jul 31, 13, 2:40 pm
#1136
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 642
Originally Posted by gottaluvNW
http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...e-done-by-2014
Announcement for the approximate date of the changeover from Star Alliance to One World for US Airways
Announcement for the approximate date of the changeover from Star Alliance to One World for US Airways
Jul 31, 13, 3:17 pm
#1137
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DCA
Programs: AA PPro, Mariott Ambassador, B6 Mosaic, SBUX Gold, Best Buy Elite
Posts: 1,804
Originally Posted by AggieNzona
I was told here yesterday this isn't news until the actual date is publsihed. On a side note the A319 I flew today had the star logo by the door painted over? Has anyone else noticed that? If my phone was not dead I would have gotten a photo.
Jul 31, 13, 3:19 pm
#1138
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SFO / SJC / OAK
Programs: AS / CSR / AMEX
Posts: 255
They may have slowly started to transition out. My flight's last weekend still announced US as a Star Alliance member so I guess until they end that relationship, they'll still announce it
Jul 31, 13, 8:58 pm
#1139
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PDX
Programs: AA Plat + SPG Plat
Posts: 235
On a recent PHL-PDX transcon the credit card pitch included some new verbiage, something about the miles being "good to use on any *A airline" and "and OW after the summer."
Aug 1, 13, 12:11 am
#1140
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Usually in SAN or Central Europe.
Programs: AA:EXP. Accor/Radisson:Silver; HH:Gold; ICH:Plt Amb.
Posts: 21,916
Originally Posted by PWMTrav
Well, I think I've seen you over in the AS forum - it sounds like I might just go for AS MVPG if I stop getting upgraded on AA/US. Out of BOS, I'd at least stand a good chance of a transcon upgrade - I've been monitoring the BOS-SAN upgrade list and F cabin space and it's leaving with an empty list/open seats fairly often. Assuming the merged airline doesn't change, at least AS elites have access to AA MCE, right? That's pretty good if I wasn't getting upgraded anyway.
