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US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'

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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:17 pm
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I would think that Day 1 would be the day that all approvals are in place. Not much of anything can happen before that.

US had said at least a month ago that the first change FFers would see would be the ability to earn US miles on "new" AA flights and vice versa - a blanket code share. The DOT and European authorities would need to approve the merger for that to happen.

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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:18 pm
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EU Regulators to AA/BA/IB JV: Drop one PHL-LHR slot to Approve US-AA Merger

My money is on the impending DL/VS JV to pick up the PHL-LHR slot pair. Thoughts?

http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...ir_route_.html


"US Airways Group and American Airlines have offered to give up a pair of landing and takeoff slots at London's Heathrow Airport to a competitor that would fly between Philadelphia and London. European Union antitrust regulators have one concern: that after the $11 billion merger of US Airways and American, the new American, as the airline will be called, could substantially hike airfares between London and Philadelphia.

A competitor airline would likely want an earlier time and select Heathrow slot times now used for flights from New York, Chicago, or some other city. The airport losing the arrival and takeoff slots would have one fewer flight to London. Instead, Philadelphia would get the slots, and an additional flight, to satisfy EU regulators' concerns."

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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:21 pm
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Am I the only one who got a sinking feeling in their gut when they saw the November 1 join date, went to oneworld.com, saw the tail fins of all the 1W members, and asked myself - who the hell are these airlines??????

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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by ITRADE View Post
Am I the only one who got a sinking feeling in their gut when they say the November 1 join date, went to oneworld.com, saw the tail fins of all the 1W members, and asked myself - who the hell are these airlines??????
OW has a number of rather good airlines:

BA
CX
QF

QR is joining next year.

These four carriers alone are some of the finest in the sky and can get you virtually anywhere you'd want to go. Quality over quantity.
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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ITRADE View Post
Am I the only one who got a sinking feeling in their gut when they say the November 1 join date, went to oneworld.com, saw the tail fins of all the 1W members, and asked myself - who the hell are these airlines??????
For anyone who has led a sheltered life, "these airlines" are:

airberlin
American Airlines
British Airways
Cathay Pacific
Finnair
Iberia
Japan Airlines
LAN
Malaysia Airlines
Qantas
Royal Jordanian
S7 Airlines.
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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:34 pm
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In addition to AA/BA, you've got JAL & Cathay Pacific (Asia), LAN (S America), Quantas (Australia, S Pacific/New Zealand), Royal Jordanian (Middle East) and the others.

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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ITRADE View Post
Am I the only one who got a sinking feeling in their gut when they say the November 1 join date, went to oneworld.com, saw the tail fins of all the 1W members, and asked myself - who the hell are these airlines??????
That was my first reaction, too, when the merger was announced a while back. But it's the strict award-redemption rules of AA that -- if adopted -- really give me that sinking feeling.

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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:40 pm
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Delta is a possibility - originate in PHL with a change of gage in JFK. UA is a possibility although not as likely. The LHR slot was a divestiture required for approval of the AA/BA JV which US received from AA (MIA-LHR). It makes sense that the slot received from AA be given up.

What I find amusing is that US is fighting so hard to keep all the DCA slots but willingly gives up a LHR slot.

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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by SOBE ER DOC View Post
These four carriers alone are some of the finest in the sky and can get you virtually anywhere you'd want to go. Quality over quantity.
Quality over quantity is a fine concept, but much less fine when you're looking to redeem miles for travel during a specific time window and suddenly have half as many carriers in play.
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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:52 pm
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Why are you amused? DCA is a gold mine - government fares, attorneys, contractors, consultants.
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Old Jul 24, 13, 5:58 pm
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Originally Posted by SOBE ER DOC View Post
My money is on the impending DL/VA JV to pick up the PHL-LHR slot pair. Thoughts?
Why should DL fly in coop with VA (Virgin Australia) between PHL and LHR?
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Old Jul 24, 13, 6:17 pm
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My sinking feeling is that I have an award RTW trip in F/C on US, UA, TK, SG, and OZ booked for November 5 through November 16. Am I screwed??
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Old Jul 24, 13, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by kochleffel View Post
For anyone who has led a sheltered life, "these airlines" are:

airberlin
American Airlines
British Airways
Cathay Pacific
Finnair
Iberia
Japan Airlines
LAN
Malaysia Airlines
Qantas
Royal Jordanian
S7 Airlines.
There are also another eleven airlines outside of oneworld where one can redeem AA miles. Really, the sky is not falling.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/a...rtnerChart.jsp

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Old Jul 24, 13, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme View Post
There are also another eleven airlines outside of oneworld where one can redeem AA miles. Really, the sky is not falling.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/a...rtnerChart.jsp

I think when current DM members start seeing the fuel surcharges on award travel by OW members - they will think the sky is falling.
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Old Jul 24, 13, 6:53 pm
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Originally Posted by shawn67 View Post
I think when current DM members start seeing the fuel surcharges on award travel by OW members - they will think the sky is falling.
Have you "priced" out an award trip on Lufthansa lately?
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