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US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'

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US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread

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MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)

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Old May 31, 13, 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by nlkm9 View Post
on a flight from ORF to CLT today, the flight attendant in FC had a lot to say about the merger-he warned that US status will mean very little and that American has only 2 levels that get ug on regular basis, etc, etc.
I have never flown on American Airlines so i couldnt say. He said there is a one world website that explains everything he was saying...
If one wants to look at upgrades, the right place is aa.com, not a oneworld site. If you're attached to unlimited 'domestic' upgrades but can't do paid flying of 100K miles annually (or 1 of 2 other qualiying measures), AAdvantage (as presently configured) will disappoint.


http://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/el...fits-chart.jsp
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Old May 31, 13, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by FWAAA View Post
I assume you fat-fingered the keyboard and meant to type "AA 757s" or perhaps "AA 767s." As a dozen people will point out, AA has no 747s.

If the old HP (now US) 757s flown PHX-HNL are too decrepit and must be retired, then I assume that some AA 757s (domestic configuration) will fly in their place.

AA is refurbishing some of its younger 757s (the oldest 757s will be retired as A321s and 738s are delivered to replace them) so AA will have HNL-capable-757s for LAX or PHX to Hawai'i for years to come.

As the AAdvantage program considers Hawai'i flights to be domestic for "sticker" upgrades (actually electronic 500s), then I assume that PHX-HNL will be treated the same once the frequent flyer programs are integrated. At AA, all flights in and between North America (including Mexico), Caribbean and Central America are "domestic" for upgrades (don't have to use miles or SWUs, although they're permitted). Unlike UA, we even get to upgrade the premium JFK-LAX/SFO transcons without using miles, SWUs or special certs.
More likely a RJ to LAX where you will connect to mainline for the onward to HNL.
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Old May 31, 13, 6:20 pm
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but they are under 2 cents a mile now--------------1750 dollars for 100k miles.
Originally Posted by PWMTrav View Post
Are you talking about buying US miles with cash through the website? Even with the 100% bonus, they're still well above 2 cents per mile, which is more than I'd say they're worth. I'd avoid that. My exception to buying miles is to top off an account for an award - meaning, I have 85k but need 5k more to book that award RT. I might do it speculatively, meaning without a particular trip in mind, if I'm close - but I wouldn't outright buy miles just to have them unless they came in under 2 cents each.
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Old May 31, 13, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by 360guy View Post
I cannot find any discussion if the new AA will honor the US Airways (America West) Club Lifetime Membership.
Read posts 635 etc.
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Old Jun 1, 13, 11:58 am
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anyone have a link to a post (or other source) that does a side by side comparison between current chairman us and AA exec plat?
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Old Jun 1, 13, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Lomapaseo View Post
I was a lifetime TWA Club member in the past and was screwed by the AA buyout (they lost 95% of my subsequent business when they screwed us lifers). Fortunately I manuevered my TWA Lifetime club status to free a lifetime USAIR Club (think Piedmont option and blind luck). If I can count on a lifetime lounge membership in the merged airline then I'm in for the duration and will take what comes.

Meanwhile my simple decision today is how to fly between multiple connecting cities US-Canada (Aug 2013)and add to my mileage bank in ether AA or USAIR and get free lounge access to boot.

My plan, subject to any negative comments by the readers, is to book a cheap ticket on Air Canada and supply my USAIR FF # and to use my USAIR Club card for lounge access in the canadian Maple Leaf lounges.

Does this sound workable?

Meanwhile my ultimate dream is that the post merger airline will see fit to reopen the old closed down USAIR club at MCO
Seems free club lounge membership (In cruddy US airline clubs) would be a poor way to decide which airline to be loyal to.
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Old Jun 1, 13, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by mybagfits View Post
anyone have a link to a post (or other source) that does a side by side comparison between current chairman us and AA exec plat?
Each of the corresponding websites will detail the benefits of elite status. But some AA EXP differences are that you have to check-off the flights you want to upgrade, even though they are complimentary. You can upgrade a companion, who will clear at your window, but it must be done using e500s. If you haven't accumulated any in your "bank" they cost $30 each. And you only accumulate them while you are Gold or Platinum status, not while being EXP, and also when you reach MM status for the first time. EXPs also receive 8 SWUs each year that can be used for any domestic or international itinerary, which may be confirmed from the time of booking. They are transferable to another flier, even if not travelling with you. And should an EXP find themselves in coach, they are entitled to a free alcoholic beverage, as well as something off the BOB menu. Also, when travelling internationally, an EXP has access to any applicable OW first class / AA Flagship lounge (not the standard business class lounge). The one downside of the upgrade process is that it is done by date of request (and of course by status). I prefer the US method of doing it by how much you have flowm YTD.
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Old Jun 1, 13, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by flyingny View Post
but they are under 2 cents a mile now--------------1750 dollars for 100k miles.
I know, see my response to the first guy that corrected me. Sorry.
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Old Jun 2, 13, 12:18 am
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The cabin layout for AA's soon-to-be-delivered 319s has just been revealed. 8F/18Y+/102Y = 128 total seats. Oh-Oh!!
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Old Jun 2, 13, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Fanjet View Post
The cabin layout for AA's soon-to-be-delivered 319s has just been revealed. 8F/18Y+/102Y = 128 total seats. Oh-Oh!!
Those will be some fun upgrades for sure. I try to avoid 319s on US because there are only 12 seats in F. I have to imagine there will be some routes that upgrades just don't happen with 8 F seats.
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Old Jun 3, 13, 7:58 am
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I have over 40 e500's in my AA account just sitting there. Wondering what will happen to them after the merge and should I be using them all up now, or
sit and wait and see.

I'm a MM in AA but fly rarely with them now, MM & CP on US. Will I end up
being EXP on AA.....I know, anyone's guess at this point.
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Old Jun 3, 13, 12:45 pm
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Well, this might change the assumption that DCA service will necessarily be pared. From Reuters:

[106] members of Congress have asked U.S. regulators to allow American Airlines (AAMRQ.PK) and US Airways Group (LCC.N) to keep all their airport slots at Reagan National Airport outside Washington D.C. if the companies' planned merger is approved.
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Old Jun 3, 13, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by hitherandyon View Post
I have over 40 e500's in my AA account just sitting there. Wondering what will happen to them after the merge and should I be using them all up now, or sit and wait and see.
If it helps, you may be able to convert them into miles. I've done so in the past, when I accumulated more than I could use.
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Old Jun 3, 13, 9:15 pm
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US to Leave *A Within 6 Months of Merger

At least there's a timeframe now...


US Airways to Leave Star Alliance Within Six Months of Merger, AA-US to Announce Management Team Mid Month


In an interview with Bloomberg News, Americanís CEO Tom Horton and USís CEO Doug Parker said that the merger of the two airlines is proceeding on schedule and that American will emerge from bankruptcy protection as the deal closes in the third quarter.

The combined airline will be based in Fort Worth ....
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Old Jun 3, 13, 11:12 pm
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To be specific:

Management Team - mid-June 2013
Deal Close - 3Q13
Code Sharing - 3Q13
Leave *A - 3-6 months later - anywhere from 10/1/13 to 3/31/14
Combined reservations systems - - 3Q14 (good luck with that)
Singe Operating Certificate - 1Q15
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