View Poll Results: Is an American Airlines/US Airways merger good for the traveling public?
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84
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Nov 12, 2013, 2:24 pm
Last edit by: aztimm
Note:
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
There is an existing thread in the AA forum that may be useful to US and AA Flyertalkers:
US-AA Merger: Just the Facts thread
As facts become posted, that should be the place to look.
Merger discussion, speculation, and other questions can be directed here, or the similar thread in the AA forum:
MERGER: US and AA 9 Dec 2013 and implications for AA flyers (new)
AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated, and now closed to new posts)
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
Dec 8, 2013, 10:35 am
#2567
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM; UA 1K; AA 1MM
Posts: 4,505
I think some of these merger details have been in interviews before, some may be news. From today's Dallas Morning News (h/t to superweak in the AA forum for the link):
- Recognition of elite status across US/AA begins January 7
- Reciprocal earn and burn begins January 7
- Codeshare sales start mid-January for flights in February. Full codesharing by March
- Single FF program late 2014 or early 2015
- Single operating certification second half of 2015
http://www.dallasnews.com/business/a...st-airline.ece
- Recognition of elite status across US/AA begins January 7
- Reciprocal earn and burn begins January 7
- Codeshare sales start mid-January for flights in February. Full codesharing by March
- Single FF program late 2014 or early 2015
- Single operating certification second half of 2015
http://www.dallasnews.com/business/a...st-airline.ece
Last edited by ty97; Dec 8, 2013 at 10:36 am Reason: added link
Dec 8, 2013, 10:38 am
#2568
Join Date: Apr 2009
Programs: Continental Airlines
Posts: 2
Doug Parker, USair is the new CEO, I suspect everything will be honored. I went through the Continenal/United merger and they have taken care of the top level elite's very well.
Dec 8, 2013, 11:03 am
#2570
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
I wouldn't count on a UA FF with *Gold automatically getting OW anything, only US FFs. It would be US status determining the AA status, not * status. There could be a status match program offered but since neither AA nor US currently offer one I wouldn't count on that either.
Jim
Jim
Dec 8, 2013, 11:31 am
#2571
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Programs: AC E50k, A3*G, UA*S, MR Titanium, HHonors Gold, Carlson Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 3,669
US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'
Out of curiosity, when will we no longer be able to book *A awards through US? Will existing F awards be able to switch into OW F? I'm thinking of an oceanic award, and QF F sounds nice.
Dec 8, 2013, 11:44 am
#2572
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
There's a thread just getting going about someone not being able to book *A J awards in October. Whether in indication of the transition date or a website glitch no one knows for sure.
There will absolutely be a date that you'll be unable to book *A awards beyond, but nobody knows what that date will be.
The safest course of action would be to wait for an official announcement with specifics. If you must book now, just hope that you can and at worst the award will be valid (with possible different routing) on OW if not *A. Pray such an award isn't cancelled on *A and you have to rebook on OW.
Jim
There will absolutely be a date that you'll be unable to book *A awards beyond, but nobody knows what that date will be.
The safest course of action would be to wait for an official announcement with specifics. If you must book now, just hope that you can and at worst the award will be valid (with possible different routing) on OW if not *A. Pray such an award isn't cancelled on *A and you have to rebook on OW.
Jim
Dec 8, 2013, 11:58 am
#2573
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM; UA 1K; AA 1MM
Posts: 4,505
Full details are not out yet, but US is expected to leave *A in March and it is a pretty safe assumption that you will not have access to *A awards after that time. However, I'm sure previously ticketed awards will be honored.
Dec 8, 2013, 2:03 pm
#2574
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattExpl.►HiltonGold►ALL Silver
Posts: 21,990
Since this is a merger it's a different situation.
Dec 8, 2013, 2:31 pm
#2575
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Phoenix/Columbus
Programs: Delta Silver Medallion, United Gold, US Airways silver
Posts: 1,717
Dec 8, 2013, 2:54 pm
#2576
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: Starwoods/ Marriott Life Time Platinum, Hilton-Diamond, and HP
Posts: 823
US Airways Club Lifetime Membership
Yes, Doug, is a "Class Act" and he did honor my American West Lifetime membership when he merged with US Airways.:
Dec 8, 2013, 3:16 pm
#2577
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,964
A coworker is about 3000 miles short on DM for Chairman. He did fly on AA in 2013. Any possibility that the EQMs will be combined for 2014 status? It does not look like the programs will combine the 2015 year....
Thanks.
Thanks.
Dec 8, 2013, 3:26 pm
#2578
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
Personally I'd doubt that miles would be combined for 2014 status since that status is determined by the end of Feb. At some point the miles will be combined and the combined status level would be based on the combined miles I'd think, but whether that happens some time in 2014 or 2015 is anyone's guess at this point. For the US/HP merger I think it took over a year to actually combine the FF programs but maybe AA's IT department can do better. One has to just remember that while US &
AA will be marketed as a single carrier, they will operate separately for 15-24 months according to the last estimate I saw.
Jim
AA will be marketed as a single carrier, they will operate separately for 15-24 months according to the last estimate I saw.
Jim
Dec 8, 2013, 3:32 pm
#2579
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
Programs: None
Posts: 9,171
I've seen early January as the date for that - Jan 7 I think. For trips this month I wouldn't hold out much hope. If you aren't a member of AAdvantage I'd sign up so you could credit miles on AA somewhere in the interim.
Jim
Jim
Dec 8, 2013, 4:09 pm
#2580
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 30,986
I've also seen January 7th published numerous times.
