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US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'

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US/AA merger- MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD/incl 'when will US leave STAR'

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Old Nov 19, 13, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by lizs View Post
This is quite the debate.

No actual information still? I'd assume they have to get info to us before merger is official, right? Especially with January 7th date of reciprocal FF benefits?
To the contrary, I am not sure they can really "officially" announce anything until the merger is official. I would not expect any official announcements about changes at least until Judge Lane (the bankruptcy court judge) okays things, which presumably will happen in the hearing on the 11/25. However, it is probably more realistic that all/most official announcements will not be made until after the merger closes, which is expected in December.

As a (mainly) AA flier, the exact merge date and the US/*AA/UA codeshare divorce is of no import to me, but I do hope the PTB are working things out so that trips you all have booked cross-airline per-merger close still earn you miles. Unfortunately, it may be a couple of weeks still before we have clarity on that point.
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Old Nov 19, 13, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by BoeingBoy View Post
I suspect that the 1/7/14 date is when you can earn/redeem on either airline - US DM members can earn DMs/redeem DMs on AA and vice versa ala the CO/UA merger.
They've said "reciprocal benefits" publicly, but it's anyone's guess as to what that means on 1/7/14.

In my mind it means that CP=EXP, regardless of which airline you fly/book, though I don't think that's how they intend to execute it. I suspect we'll wind up with most benefits other than upgrades in practice.
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Old Nov 19, 13, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by McFlyPHL View Post
They've said "reciprocal benefits" publicly, but it's anyone's guess as to what that means on 1/7/14.

In my mind it means that CP=EXP, regardless of which airline you fly/book, though I don't think that's how they intend to execute it. I suspect we'll wind up with most benefits other than upgrades in practice.
Upgrades will be sold to the highest bidder. Investors and creditors want more cuts. BoD is now rumoured to be trying to hire Smisek after the razor sharp job he did at UA.
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Old Nov 19, 13, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by burlax View Post
Upgrades will be sold to the highest bidder. Investors and creditors want more cuts. BoD is now rumoured to be trying to hire Smisek after the razor sharp job he did at UA.
Shrinking an airline to profitability?
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Old Nov 19, 13, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Michael El View Post
I hope LAX and/or SFO ends up with a Narita route or two.
AA serves LAX-NRT and JL serves SFO-HND
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Old Nov 20, 13, 12:24 am
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Just wanted to pass on that we're being told at work that we will leave *A on March 1st and will join OW on April 1st.
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Old Nov 20, 13, 12:51 am
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Originally Posted by awaflyboy View Post
Just wanted to pass on that we're being told at work that we will leave *A on March 1st and will join OW on April 1st.
That's odd - why a month-long gap? When CO left ST to join *A, there was a 2-day gap. Moreover, TAM is scheduled to switch to OW at the end of March, so I don't see why complicate matters and add another new carrier to the mix within a day or 2 of that happening. Also, what happens between March 1st and April 1st - US DM members will only receive FF benefits when flying US or AA? That's quite limiting. Especially, if you travel internationally, lounge access is rather important. I hope this is just something they are considering but not the final outcome.
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Old Nov 20, 13, 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by Phoenixtinct View Post
That's odd - why a month-long gap? When CO left ST to join *A, there was a 2-day gap. Moreover, TAM is scheduled to switch to OW at the end of March, so I don't see why complicate matters and add another new carrier to the mix within a day or 2 of that happening. Also, what happens between March 1st and April 1st - US DM members will only receive FF benefits when flying US or AA? That's quite limiting. Especially, if you travel internationally, lounge access is rather important. I hope this is just something they are considering but not the final outcome.
I do agree that a one month gap is quite long given how quickly CO left ST and entered Star. Maybe some OW carries (like JL/BA/IB/AY) will be US DM earning partners before then. You don't need an alliance for that.
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Old Nov 20, 13, 10:23 am
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I'm guessing that awaflyboy's post contained a typo; perhaps he meant to type March 31 instead of March 1?
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Old Nov 20, 13, 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by FWAAA View Post
I'm guessing that awaflyboy's post contained a typo; perhaps he meant to type March 31 instead of March 1?
When I read it last night (before going to sleep), I actually thought it said the 31st but this morning I noticed the 1st.

I have calls into US to find out what's what here.
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Old Nov 20, 13, 10:33 am
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* A - )W miles?

Originally Posted by awaflyboy View Post
Just wanted to pass on that we're being told at work that we will leave *A on March 1st and will join OW on April 1st.
So, since I am planning to switch from Star Alliance to One World when this merger is finally in place, should I change my FF # FROM UA TO US Airways on a United flight to AMS and back at the end of March before April 1? If I do, and this transition happens on April 1, will that help me with the New American and getting status? I am currently 1K on United, with no status on US Airways.
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Old Nov 20, 13, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by awaflyboy View Post
Just wanted to pass on that we're being told at work that we will leave *A on March 1st and will join OW on April 1st.
No. The new AA is joining ST on April 1st.
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Old Nov 20, 13, 10:42 am
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It would seem that there'll have to be a grace period for those already having tickets (award or paid) to accrue US miles for their flights, although until US/AA puts something out nothing is guaranteed. I'd be tempted to credit the miles to whichever carrier you'd rather accrue them with, keeping in mind that you put off doing anything until the day of your trip so can wait a while to see what news comes out.

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Old Nov 20, 13, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by BoeingBoy View Post
It would seem that there'll have to be a grace period for those already having tickets (award or paid) to accrue US miles for their flights, although until US/AA puts something out nothing is guaranteed. I'd be tempted to credit the miles to whichever carrier you'd rather accrue them with, keeping in mind that you put off doing anything until the day of your trip so can wait a while to see what news comes out.

Jim
Would not need to pull the trigger on switching FF #'s until the day of travel in March 2014, so it would make sense to wait for official confirmation before doing anything. Just thinking ahead....

Other questions re: the new American.

Can/will you be able to earn American miles on TATL BA flights? I recall that you can't in the recent past and maybe now. There is a PHX- LHR flight I would use if you could.

Would the new American increase the number of flights to AMS? AA does not fly there, and US only has one flight out of PHX on a 757. I fly there a lot.
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Old Nov 20, 13, 10:56 am
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Can/will you be able to earn American miles on TATL BA flights? I recall that you can't in the recent past and maybe now. There is a PHX- LHR flight I would use if you could.
Yes, you can earn AA miles on all BA flights - and have been able to since 2010.
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