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kudzu Jan 28, 2011 11:00 am

US is No. 3 among America's safest airlines
 
http://travel.usnews.com/features/Am...fest_Airlines/

1. AirTran
2. Southwest
3. US
4. CO
5. DL
6. UA
7. AA
8. JetBlue

The report is quick to mention that any U.S. based airline is very, very safe.

I'm not sure why reports like this are done (afer all, since the airlines are all safe, do we need a report at all...), but I guess this is more positive news for US in terms of bragging rights, and congratulations to all at US who make safety a top priority ^

Maybe we could discard the moniker "US Scareways" once and for all :D

GaryZ Jan 28, 2011 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by kudzu (Post 15754890)

Maybe we could discard the moniker "US Scareways" once and for all

It was an unfair moniker to begin with, especially if you look at the past 25 years:

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/rates.htm

To me, I found AF position on the list rather interesting.

ellinj Jan 28, 2011 9:34 pm


Originally Posted by GaryZ (Post 15755474)
It was an unfair moniker to begin with, especially if you look at the past 25 years:

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/rates.htm

To me, I found AF position on the list rather interesting.

Well AF lost that A330 recently, and don't forget about the Concorde a few years back.

belfordrocks Jan 29, 2011 12:43 am

And the A340 at Toronto. And why is Jetblue last without having a single hull-loss?

BoeingBoy Jan 29, 2011 12:53 am


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 15758688)
And why is Jetblue last without having a single hull-loss?

No U.S. carrier had a hull lose in 2010. They counted incidents which cover a broad range of things.

Jim

belfordrocks Jan 29, 2011 4:38 am

Then I wonder what Mr. Slater would be thinking reading this... ;)

GaryZ Jan 29, 2011 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by ellinj (Post 15758153)
Well AF lost that A330 recently, and don't forget about the Concorde a few years back.

Yes, I recall those, now. I never gave AF dismal safety record much thought when I flew them a couple times a few years ago - probably will in the future :eek:

channa Jan 29, 2011 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by GaryZ (Post 15755474)
It was an unfair moniker to begin with, especially if you look at the past 25 years:

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/rates.htm

To me, I found AF position on the list rather interesting.


It also seems unfair that AA and UA get dinged for fatalities from 9/11.

WIRunner Jan 29, 2011 11:54 pm

combining CO and CoEx when the rest of the regionals were broken out... mostly. Comair was there, but others weren't. The table is flawed overall. There are too many inconsistencies in the data.

Microtrack Jan 30, 2011 9:35 am

Airtrain - Valuejet
 
Would Valuejet crash be part of Airtrain numbers? As I recall Valuejet crash near Miami led to management from valuejet taking over Airtran and changing name?

BoeingBoy Jan 30, 2011 10:42 am


Originally Posted by Microtrack (Post 15765521)
Would Valuejet crash be part of Airtrain numbers?

No, it only used incidents that happened in 2010.

Jim

Microtrack Jan 30, 2011 11:56 am


Originally Posted by BoeingBoy (Post 15765856)
No, it only used incidents that happened in 2010.

Jim

Thanks, noted ealier post regarding 9/11. Does a one year snapshot have any meaning?

chewy3 Jan 30, 2011 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by Microtrack (Post 15766209)
Thanks, noted ealier post regarding 9/11. Does a one year snapshot have any meaning?

A one year record for any airline is almost meaningless and statistically insignificant.

belfordrocks Jan 30, 2011 5:43 pm

Most crashes in recent times such as Afriqiyah A330, Ethiopian 737, Air India 737 and Airblue A321 are either caused by or strongly contributed by pilot error. If the folks up front know what they're doing then you're statistically guaranteed a safe flight, regardless of the paintwork on the side.

GaryZ Jan 30, 2011 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 15768038)
Most crashes in recent times such as Afriqiyah A330, Ethiopian 737, Air India 737 and Airblue A321 are either caused by or strongly contributed by pilot error. If the folks up front know what they're doing then you're statistically guaranteed a safe flight, regardless of the paintwork on the side.

I would add AF447, the Brazil-Paris flight that crashed a couple of years ago to your scenarios. It appears the senior pilot was in his sleeping bunk while more junior pilots flew into a major storm.


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