User Name

Thanks both.

I tried omitting the last digit by ANA's site still threw up an error message.

I called them and they confirmed my booking and gave me the 6-character confirmation code. Strangely enough when I plugged this back into their site I got the error message again. Maybe their website is having issues.

alfrie

Your US domestic flights are booked into first class (O). That's why the computer quoted 120K miles. Tell US agents these are domestic two-cabin flights and they can manually override the computer. It should not be too hard for US agents to budge because these are their own flights.

joejoe666

guys i would like to book 2 award coach tickets from phl or ewr to bom or del.

outbound Feb 8 or 7
return Feb 15 or 16

the US air agent said those dates are not allowed. i have read they do not take the time needed to get the dates. Can someone help me find award seats? or show me how to search, i cannot do the ANA search because i have not points with them.

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

u can go to united.com and search for award availability that way. you need to look for saver award availability... that is usually available for partners to book. break your journey down if necessary, so you look for [major USA gateway] to your India destination, then look for connecting flights (or call us air for the connecting flights)

cvarming

Try united.com . It is looking pretty dry those days.

LSUmascot

Just ran a search on ANA for you and there were no award tickets on your dates from EWR to DEL visible at this time.

faithwins

Korea is in North Asia: Hang Up and Call Again!

bkafrick

Just wanted to say thank you to all of those who helped me construct this reservation. I just hung up with Gold Preferred who just ticketed me a two-week Asian itin.

Final details were:

4/23 US2281 SYR-CLT F
4/23 US1439 CLT-LAX F (<24 hr stopover)
4/24 OZ201 LAX-ICN F (<24 hr stopover)
4/26 OZ106 ICN-NRT C (official stopover)
5/1 OZ101 NRT-ICN F
5/1 OZ745 ICN-HKG C (destination)
5/6 CA118 HKG-PEK C
5/6 CA987 PEK-LAX F (<24 hr stopover)
5/7 US708 LAX-PHL F
5/7 US4016 PHL-SYR Y

10 segments, 120k miles, $105 in taxes. Special thanks to Tommyleo for the inspiration to travel alone in F class across a few carriers. I really wanted to add an NH or TG flight in there, but just couldnt make it happen. We'll see how CA's F class is on that return trip home.

This forum represents the best in Flyertalk. I've learned so much about complex Asian routings from here. Kudos to everyone for keeping the knowledge base going!

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

this seems to confirm my current thinking that just about any routing will be allowed these days as long as you stay within MPM? Many of the old rules (8 segments, most direct routing) seem to have gone out the window

ianp

I have just been on the phone attempting to get a class upgrade with no success .

I booked 2 First class returns in June last year,
BNE-BKK-MUC-FRA-ORD-DEN -dest - DEN-ORD-LHR stop-LHR-FRA-BKK-BNE
all the seats were In first except one small leg between DEN and ORD on UA , I could only get one first and one coach seat , I was checking availability and UA have changed the flight number and opened up one more first seat , so I got on the phone to US air , I tried 4 agents and each one insisted that I would have redeposit the miles and rebook the whole trip if I wanted to change the seat from coach to first.

Looks like the agents are getting tough !!

FIGWSJ11

OK, so I did the HUACA, and the new rep agreed that Korea is indeed in North Asia (lol) and booked me the outbound

1/13 ICN-LAX
LAX-PHX
PHX-ATL

However, she refused to add the ATL-LAX on the 8th with a stopover in LAX (3days) before I continued back to ICN on the 12th. She said "you can't layover in a city that is in the same region as the destination. So, as ATL is destination (North America) I can't layover in North America."

Not really wanting to argue anymore I didn't push it, have spent 3 hours on the phone already. Does anyone know if this stopover restriction (not in same region as destination) is valid?

Thanks again to all!

bkafrick

Well that can't be true, I just booked a stopover (5 nights) in Tokyo and a destination in Hong Kong last night. Both are in North Asia.

louie-m

The rules are:

Stopovers
1.For travel within the continental U.S., Canada and Alaska, a stopover is defined as a stay of more than 4 hours between connections (if there is a connecting flight available within 4 hours). If you’re traveling outside the continental U.S., Canada and Alaska, a stopover is defined as a stay of more than 24 hours between connections.
2.Stopovers are not permitted when travel is within one award region or for multi-city travel.
3.For travel outside the continental U.S., Canada and Alaska, you’re allowed one stopover per US Airways itinerary at a US Airways gateway or international destination (or in a partner hub city if you’re traveling on an award partner). US Airways hub/international gateway cities include Charlotte, Philadelphia and Phoenix. Please call Reservations for additional US Airways international gateways and partner hub cities.
4.Stopovers are allowed only for the most direct route of travel.
5.Stopovers must be included in the reservation when you book. You may not add a stopover once an award has been ticketed.
6.With Star Alliance Round-the-World awards, you’re allowed five stopovers in a forward direction toward the original departure city.

Is your "layover" actually a stopover by their definition in rule 1? If so, is that in addition to another stopover? If so, it shouldn't be allowed as I read the rules.

belfordrocks

I think the rule of thumb should be changed from HUACA to HUACAACAACAACAACA...

Certainly that's what I had to use for my last award...

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

you cannot stopover where the entire award is in a single zone. when it is multi zone you can stopover within a zone. if you want it just ring back and say you have changed your mind and would like to add a stopover in lax before you ticket.