juergenritz

one more thing, domestic first class like PHX-HNL in a 2 cabin plane does not mean first class pricing when booked within a europe to USA ticket or. Had a travel agent on the phone who wanted to charge a little bit extra for that ...
JR

shaggy_mutt

Just to clarify: this is true with an international (I believe it's actually transoceanic - i.e. TATL or TPAC) itin in business or first. A coach international itin doesn't upgrade the domestic parts to first for free.

ebis

I booked a business class award from BHM -> HKG using my US Airways miles. I received an itinerary that includes the following segment

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni..._ERJ-145_B.php

with me placed in the last row. Should I call and ask to be placed in the Economy Plus? Do I contact US Airways or United Airlines?

Thanks for any advice!

Ocn Vw 1K

ebis, welcome to FlyerTalk!

As you booked this using your USAirways miles, that airline should be able to guide you in resolving the issue. I'll move it to that airline's forum for more discussion. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator, TravelBuzz.

Often1

OP - The ERJ 145 UA version has no E+ and the US version has no choice/preferred seating. It's a tiny aircraft. But, on both aircraft, the last row is horrible, with limited recline and next to a chemical toilet.

Having nothing to do with what class you are booked in, if there are any other empty seats, I would pick one of those ASAP. You can do this online or, if you're not familiar, just call the operating carrier for the flight segment, whether that's US or UA.

McSam18

I'm looking at booking an award flight to Europe in business. The international portions are the standard award saver 50k miles each way. The question I have, however, deals with domestic US flights. If the only award left for a domestic first flight is 50k one way, how is that handled with regard to the mileage for the overall trip?

For example,

PHL-LGA 50K US Airways
JFK-LHR 50k United
LHR-JFK 50k United
LGA-PHL 50k US Airways

What's the total?

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

because you are flying united, it will be charged at the partner award level, which is 100k return (there is no one way). I believe this means the connecting flights have to be generally available for partner award redemption (that is, not at high or peak levels which require a surcharge)

USDM seems very flexible with connecting flights in this case, so it might be that you need to route phl-lga via another city.

chris4096

UA does not provide free E+ for business class itineraries. IMO this is insane, but that's what I've heard from them. I've used US miles for a UA Global First award itinerary with a 2+ hr RJ flight and they still offered E+ for sale. I find it absurd that they could charge $10,000+ for a ticket and not offer E+ on a domestic RJ segment but that's been my experience.

thomwithanh

If the UAX segment has "reserved" seating (I believe this is the case on the E-145, CRJ-200 and Dash 8) you should be able to select one of those seats if you're connecting on to a BusinessFirst itinerary (at least I was able to flying BGM-IAD-LHR with the domestic segment on a Q200 and the TATL segment in C). At OLCI, I was able to move into the exit row. I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with my US status.

EDIT: According to http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...nes_Q400_A.php there actually is a small E+ section on the Dash 8 Q400, and three rows of F. By the numbers it appears that the difference between E and E+ is minimal (1 additional inch of pitch). Regarding the "F cabin"... SeatGuru claims the same pitch and seat width as E+ but with only three across. At first I figured it was wrong information, until I found this press release issued by Bombardier from when the first two cabin Q400 went into service:



"First Class" really does appear to be nothing more than regular coach seats that are spaced slightly further apart. You'd think with barcoloungers being put on CR-7's and E-170's that United could have sprung for something a little nicer. A freebie for elites is one thing, but I'd feel bad for someone who shelled out $$$ for a domestic F ticket and got this

ebis

Thank you all for the responses!

eponymous_coward

Uh, UA doesn't fly JFK-LHR. Hasn't for over a decade.

Otherwise, in order to book a partner award, as mentioned above, the US flights need to be at low.

McSam18

Good to know, thanks for the help!!

Often1

Lets not forget that this is an ERJ which doesn't have either F or E+. It's not a Q400 and it's not anything else. So, sticking to OP's question, there's nothing to do here other than move his seat selection presuming that there's an empty seat to be had.

PVDtoDEL

UA flies EWR-LHR. OP probably searched JFK-LHR and came up with this result, as they are coterminals

davem4

Seeing conflicting information.

1. No LH first as of 1-Jan-13

2. No LH at all as of 31-Oct or for any flights after 31-Oct?