It's official, FlightFund to be absorbed into DM
May 20, 2005, 4:16 am
#1
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It's official, FlightFund to be absorbed into DM
Hopefully all the great aspects of the DM program will be retained. I don't mind the 100K tier miles for top tier but there will probably be a lot of whining from AW folk who fly between 75K and 100K a year. Of course, with the greatly expanded route structure, they should be able to hit 100K with the merged entity.
From the Q&A in the email:
What will happen to my frequent flyer miles?
Once the merger is approved, our frequent flyer programs will be combined under the Dividend Miles brand. Your mileage balance is secure and will be transferred into the combined program.
From the Q&A in the email:
What will happen to my frequent flyer miles?
Once the merger is approved, our frequent flyer programs will be combined under the Dividend Miles brand. Your mileage balance is secure and will be transferred into the combined program.
May 20, 2005, 4:49 am
#2
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If they have any sense they'll convert the top tier to CP regardless. They may well drop the CP qualification level to 75k -- it's not like they're in a position of strength with the customer base nor is it at all unusual in the competitive landscape.
May 20, 2005, 5:38 am
#3
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We have NO idea what will happen. I am sure there will be a grace period and probably many of the top tier on HP will be converted to CP based on their travel patterns, how much they paid ect. I don't think the top tier will drop to 75k. However, who knows. That is anyones guess at this point.
Before the merger HP had limited East coast routes and no European destinations. Now that that is possible I am sure that they will keep the 100k tier. Or maybe they will come to a compromise. Hard to say at this point.
Before the merger HP had limited East coast routes and no European destinations. Now that that is possible I am sure that they will keep the 100k tier. Or maybe they will come to a compromise. Hard to say at this point.
May 20, 2005, 8:24 am
#4
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Originally Posted by US AIRWAYS FAN
We have NO idea what will happen. I am sure there will be a grace period and probably many of the top tier on HP will be converted to CP based on their travel patterns, how much they paid ect. I don't think the top tier will drop to 75k. However, who knows. That is anyones guess at this point.
Before the merger HP had limited East coast routes and no European destinations. Now that that is possible I am sure that they will keep the 100k tier. Or maybe they will come to a compromise. Hard to say at this point.
Before the merger HP had limited East coast routes and no European destinations. Now that that is possible I am sure that they will keep the 100k tier. Or maybe they will come to a compromise. Hard to say at this point.
Sean
May 20, 2005, 8:33 am
#5
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Originally Posted by stiphy
Seems to me the solution is simple. Add a new 75k tier to the plan. I think US should've done this anyway. Why should one have to DOUBLE their travel to hit the next tier in a program. Do your tiers in 25k increments.
May 20, 2005, 8:39 am
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Top tier qualification requirements:
AA 100k
UA 100k
US 100k
HP 75k
NW 75k
CO 75k
DL 75k
Given the rather loose coupling between US & UA (just about the only benefit to being CP when you fly UA is that you can get an E+ seat...) I see no advantage to keeping the top tier mileage requirements aligned. It would be different if there was a recipricol upgrade arrangement like NW & CO have.
AA 100k
UA 100k
US 100k
HP 75k
NW 75k
CO 75k
DL 75k
Given the rather loose coupling between US & UA (just about the only benefit to being CP when you fly UA is that you can get an E+ seat...) I see no advantage to keeping the top tier mileage requirements aligned. It would be different if there was a recipricol upgrade arrangement like NW & CO have.
May 20, 2005, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by US AIRWAYS FAN
If they reduce it to 75K you can bet the carryover will go bye bye. Does any other carrier have the carryover?
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I don't disagree with that thinking; however, they need to offer something for going above the mileage threshold or risk losing elites to other carriers in the 2nd half of the year. UA offers additional SWUs for every 25K above 1K.
May 20, 2005, 10:13 am
#11
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Originally Posted by US AIRWAYS FAN
If they reduce it to 75K you can bet the carryover will go bye bye. Does any other carrier have the carryover?
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In any event it is a great benefit that costs them practically nothing. In the state they're in they can't have too many of those
I expect it to remain -- irregardless of any possible adjustment to the top tier qualification level.
May 20, 2005, 10:16 am
#12
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Originally Posted by wr_schwab
The only question I'd have if they added a tier is what would be the real benefit to the program? The biggest advantage I see (based on the published benefits) of CP over GP is the CP desk and clearing upgrades at the 7 day window. I'm not sure how you could add a tier between GP & CP without diluting the benefits to one or both levels.
Sean
May 20, 2005, 10:17 am
#13
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I don't expect to see anything negative happen with respect to the airlines respective mileage programs.
We're the customers. The money comes from us. They're in no position to be aggravating us.
We're the customers. The money comes from us. They're in no position to be aggravating us.
May 20, 2005, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by TomBascom
I don't expect to see anything negative happen with respect to the airlines respective mileage programs.
We're the customers. The money comes from us. They're in no position to be aggravating us.
We're the customers. The money comes from us. They're in no position to be aggravating us.