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Old Jun 16, 2013, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by exerda
My god, not this discussion again!

Surely UA has the numbers and doesn't need to rely on some FT thread to drive them to do something?
I doubt UA is this smart.
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Old Jun 16, 2013, 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by PDXPremier
I've been pleasantly surprised at how many sub 3cpm MRs there have been in the past few years
I'm seeing nothing even at twice that cost from CLE or CAK.
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Old Jun 16, 2013, 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by RNE
I'm seeing nothing even at twice that cost from CLE or CAK.
IAH is even worse. I have booked exactly ONE ticket this year at less than 10 cpm. Even my personal trips are usually 20-25 cpm as a Houston based flyer.
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Old Jun 16, 2013, 9:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Air Houston
IAH is even worse. I have booked exactly ONE ticket this year at less than 10 cpm. Even my personal trips are usually 20-25 cpm as a Houston based flyer.
IAH had some good 4cpmish fares to IST and DXB earlier this year...
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Old Jun 16, 2013, 9:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Air Houston
IAH is even worse. I have booked exactly ONE ticket this year at less than 10 cpm. Even my personal trips are usually 20-25 cpm as a Houston based flyer.
Are you buying these as one-ways, or r/t's?
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Old Jun 16, 2013, 10:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Kmxu
You heard that DL would introduce MQD next year. UA will likely introduce PQD (Premier Qualifying Dollar) sooner, with help of this kind of thread. You can kiss your MR plans and elite status goodbye.
Yes because this is the first thread ever that talks about how people score elite status spending a few hundred dollars.

Originally Posted by rankourabu
ok I think that does explain it then

I just cant imagine MR'ing continuously - especially domestic USA - where even flying in F is dreadful.

And I do love flying/travelling as much as the next guy. See my signature.
Retirement being a long long time away - I am not banking points, use em as fast as I get em.
Just because you can't imagine it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Flyertalk exists for the this reason. Boardingarea.com and other blog sites are stocked will people who fly to get status so that they can get more miles, so that they can fly in F or J on long hauls.


Originally Posted by rankourabu
question,
why earn status on MRs, only to do more MRs?


I have 1k wrapped up this year - totally on personal trips, I guess one weekend in Vegas could be a sorta considered a mileage run out of all that. Total spend will be under $5k for 1k, includes one RGN mistake trip.

Doing domestic MRs is pure torture.
Well you've asserted many times that no GS pays for GS status, and yet here you are claiming you made 1K on your one dime. Wow.
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Old Jun 17, 2013, 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by mre5765

Well you've asserted many times that no GS pays for GS status, and yet here you are claiming you made 1K on your one dime. Wow.
How are those two things equal???? One is mileage based, and the other purely revenue based

I can make 1K easily by flying partner airlines (irrelevant for GS qualification), and by just flying 100,000 miles. Thats not so hard out of pocket. A few overseas vacations a year will do. And this year has been especially generous with one RGN fare, and one other NH F TPAC mistake fare, so 1K was reached faster than usual.

I cannot get GS no matter how many miles I fly. Its revenue based. I am not about to go spending money on United full fare Y tickets and premium flights.... Why would anyone spend actual money on United premium cabins when they have a choice????

And yes, I will assert, very few, if any, GS's pay for their status with leisure travel. It is almost always somehow business or work related. Respect to those who are self-employed or run their own business and make GS and the money spent on GS is theirs.

Originally Posted by mre5765
people who fly to get status so that they can get more miles, so that they can fly in F or J on long hauls.
That is not doing MRs for the sake of MRs - that is doing them with a purpose in mind. A very reasonable purpose at that. The only thing I dont understand is doing domestic MRs, just to do more domestic MRs, no actual trips, no purpose.

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Old Jun 17, 2013, 8:08 am
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Do readers here think there are enough people doing cheap MRs and getting to 1K to bother United? It seems hard to believe.

I have 5 million BIS miles (multiple airlines unfortunately) and have been traveling for 32 years and I never even heard the term mileage run until I looked at this site a few years ago.

I would guess there are a few thousand people in the world doing this and it has no effect on airlines.

I suspect what is having an effect on airlines is that most large companies have travel policies where employees need to purchase the cheapest coach fare regardless of distance.
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Old Jun 17, 2013, 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
How are those two things equal???? One is mileage based, and the other purely revenue based

I can make 1K easily by flying partner airlines (irrelevant for GS qualification), and by just flying 100,000 miles. Thats not so hard out of pocket.
To many people it is hard out of pocket.

Originally Posted by rankourabu
I cannot get GS no matter how many miles I fly.
False. Fly 4MM BIS: GS for life.

Originally Posted by rankourabu
That is not doing MRs for the sake of MRs - that is doing them with a purpose in mind. A very reasonable purpose at that. The only thing I dont understand is doing domestic MRs, just to do more domestic MRs, no actual trips, no purpose.
Doing MRs to do more MRs is useful because UA grants higher RDM bonuses for higher levels of elite. This is useful for the person who flies enough on business to reach elite status X, but instead wants those flights for business to earn benefits at elite status X+1 or X+2. If any thing, the post acquisition M+ program encourages more domestic MRs (or segment padding) because of the wide gulf between gold RDM bonus and 1K RDM bonus. And if one is doing MRs, one wants to be in a higher elite status to get higher on the upgrade list, or the the event of those irrops that pay a 50% PQM bonus, standby for the alternative flight. Flying coast to coast watching direcTV in F is not much different than spending the same time in ones living room watching direcTV, except that someone is bringing you the snacks and beer.

I'm not a MRer; my job requires travel, so I make 1K on someone else's dime. But I appreciate the logic of the MRer who seeks a life of leisure without actually being in the leisure class.

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Old Jun 17, 2013, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by mre5765
I'm not a MRer; my job requires travel, so I make 1K on someone else's dime. But I appreciate the logic of the MRer who seeks a life of leisure without actually being in the leisure class.
Cheers - you appreciate my logic, and luckily, so does Mrs. Kmfdm91! ^

To circle back to the OPs question - I fly MRs and other leisure trips exclusively to get 1K status, and have for the past ~two years. Prior to that, I had a good amount of business travel which helped significantly, but nowadays, I'm taking cheap MRs and fun weekend trips plus the occasional 'real' vacation in order to get 1K and my wife make at least Gold...

It's worked out great so far, been fairly cheap and we get to travel around in premium cabins on a good percentage of our flights.

Now that we have Baby Kmfdm91, it's even more critical that we get in nicer seats every so often...so i'm shooting for 1K this year and hopefully next year too :-)

There have been some great deals from WAS (and BWI) and i've luckily gotten in on most of them: SEA (x2) , SAN (x2) , PDX (x4) and ANC (x2)...

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Old Jun 17, 2013, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by mre5765
False. Fly 4MM BIS: GS for life.


Doing MRs to do more MRs is useful because UA grants higher RDM bonuses for higher levels of elite. This is useful for the person who flies enough on business to reach elite status X, but instead wants those flights for business to earn benefits at elite status X+1 or X+2. If any thing, the post acquisition M+ program encourages more domestic MRs (or segment padding) because of the wide gulf between gold RDM bonus and 1K RDM bonus. And if one is doing MRs, one wants to be in a higher elite status to get higher on the upgrade list, or the the event of those irrops that pay a 50% PQM bonus, standby for the alternative flight. Flying coast to coast watching direcTV in F is not much different than spending the same time in ones living room watching direcTV, except that someone is bringing you the snacks and beer.

I'm not a MRer; my job requires travel, so I make 1K on someone else's dime. But I appreciate the logic of the MRer who seeks a life of leisure without actually being in the leisure class.

If I had to fly 4MM miles on UA metal = shoot me.
besides that would have required me doing 125k+ miles every year of my life since birth until now.

You still dont understand, doing MRs to top up status, to get to the next level, to get upgrades for future work trips/vacations, I can understand.

Doing MR's just to get status, just to do more MRs - and never actually going anywhere - that I dont understand.
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Old Jun 17, 2013, 10:39 am
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And your point is? That is why we have Flyertalk

I think some of us are not rational when it comes to miles/statuses. I for one seem to value miles more than real money. For retirment, my goals are 1MM on United and Lifetime Platinum with Marriott, not money in the bank...
The way UA goes now, at the time of your retirement, your 1MM may be redeemed for an one-way ticket LAX-FAT at saver's rate, subject to YQ.
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Old Jun 17, 2013, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by Kmxu
You heard that DL would introduce MQD next year. UA will likely introduce PQD (Premier Qualifying Dollar) sooner, with help of this kind of thread. You can kiss your MR plans and elite status goodbye.
Fortunately, DL let's you bypass the MQD requirement via $25K annual spend on one the DL branded AMEX cards. So it's not quite the end of road for MR'ers on DL (as long as they have decent credit card spend).
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Old Jun 17, 2013, 10:44 am
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Fortunately, DL let's you bypass the MQD requirement via $25K annual spend on one the DL branded AMEX cards. So it's not quite the end of road for MR'ers on DL (as long as they have decent credit card spend).
and MQD is not a requirement for anyone outside the USA ^
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Old Jun 17, 2013, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
If I had to fly 4MM miles on UA metal = shoot me.
besides that would have required me doing 125k+ miles every year of my life since birth until now.

You still dont understand, doing MRs to top up status, to get to the next level, to get upgrades for future work trips/vacations, I can understand.

Doing MR's just to get status, just to do more MRs - and never actually going anywhere - that I dont understand.
I just did my first MR last month and then a few more over the past week. When you see a $60+ fare for a transcon flight, I think you should jump on it. The problem was - they all had different origin. The one in May was from FLL to SJU and since I had to fly out from CHI, it required 2 positioning flights. The fare was quite delicious (around 2cpm), so I couldn't pass it up. I had used up all my AirTran/Southwest credits for such flights. But last week was a challenge. Starting out in Phoenix, arriving in Albany, then had to get to Baltimore for the next set - flew to SFO and back, then on to FLL from BWI to head to LAX and from there back to CHI. This presented numerous challenges when one has to factor in additional time for delays and travel is spread around 4 airlines - US, UA, FL and WN with different SDC/standby policies. What I was really thrilled about that even on the cheapest N/G fares I got upgraded on red-eye flights as a Gold. It really helped to get some decent sleep. The last one I did started out in Vegas where I ended up 2 days later after visiting Buffalo and Phoenix on the way. My justification for this is that I was planning to be there anyway and cut my trip a bit short to gain a lot of extra miles and get closer to Platinum - not sure I want to hit 1K or will be able to - with the money I was gonna spend on hotels anyway. Out of the close to 70,000 miles flown so far this year, around 25,000 of those were MRs. That's one Premier level. The rest was necessary travel and not quite cheap either. I flew Turkish in Premium Economy and upgraded to Business on the return with Miles but only got 100% miles on UA for it with no bonuses as opposed to other partners like LH, US, etc. who do. So, for me, taking advantage of some lower fares every so often levels the field a bit with all those 8-10 cpm fares I have to pay quite often. I used my miles for a Business reward from Europe to New Zealand last year for 75,000, so it's nice to be able to afford those every once in a while. And in my opinion, MP award redemption is excellent, so definitely doesn't hurt to have UA miles. Overall, however, I'm not sure I'll keep on MRing - it's very stressful if it's back-to-back and from different cities. Ultimately, if UA adopts a revenue component it will be a non-issue and then I'll just earn my *G status on other alliance members.
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