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Status of UA's 777 Conversion to new International First, Business and Economy Seats

Status of UA's 777 Conversion to new International First, Business and Economy Seats

 
Old Apr 8, 2010, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by britinva79
Doesn't the airline lose revenue from this?
I would highly doubt it - the number of times international F would be filled with paying pax versus having some upgraders in the mix must be pretty small Keeping an upgrader from going C-F doesn't really cost them, but violating pilots union contract requirements would be quite costly.
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Old Apr 8, 2010, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Lightman7
I would highly doubt it - the number of times international F would be filled with paying pax versus having some upgraders in the mix must be pretty small Keeping an upgrader from going C-F doesn't really cost them, but violating pilots union contract requirements would be quite costly.
Aren't the reconfig 777s being fitted with a lower lobe crew rest area?
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Old Apr 8, 2010, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by IADtoWhere
Aren't the reconfig 777s being fitted with a lower lobe crew rest area?
Some are, some aren't.
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Old Apr 8, 2010, 8:30 pm
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F/A's have the new seatmap now, why cant UA release them to the public?
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Old Apr 8, 2010, 8:31 pm
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Originally Posted by UAL4life
F/A's have the new seatmap now, why cant UA release them to the public?
Lazy?
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Old Apr 8, 2010, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
Some are, some aren't.
Why would they only configure some with this new rest area? Isn't that more expensive?
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Old Apr 8, 2010, 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by britinva79
Why would they only configure some with this new rest area? Isn't that more expensive?
A couple of possibilities. (a) Not all 777s are created equally, and (b) it may be more expensive to reconfigure that way, so they're only doing it to the ones they think they'll need.
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Old Apr 8, 2010, 11:18 pm
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Originally Posted by britinva79
Doesn't the airline lose revenue from this?
I did 4 ORD<>LHR segments in F last year, and there were NRSAs in F on every flight - one flight had 3! This is on the 767, which in crew rest form has just 5 F seats, the smallest F cabin of any United plane with an F cabin (even UX!). So no, I'm going to say they probably don't lose much revenue.
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Old Apr 9, 2010, 1:32 am
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Originally Posted by IADtoWhere
Aren't the reconfig 777s being fitted with a lower lobe crew rest area?
6-8 of reconfig 777 are adding the LLCR ( lower lobe crew rest). This is where the FA's take their crew rest.

The XP/XQ is the LLRC 777

The XC/XD will have the FA crew rest seats which will be moved from row 17-19 HJ to row 24-26 CDE I'm not sure of the exact row numbers but it's the last 2 rows in the middle section before the lavs. So when you see the plane on a non int'l route row 24 or 25 CDE will be the new 21 HJ that has all the extra leg room.

Last update I heard which could change was the plane should be out April 14th-17th. Still SFO-LHR-DEN-SFO routing.
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Old Apr 9, 2010, 3:00 am
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Originally Posted by Aluminum tubing
6-8 of reconfig 777 are adding the LLCR ( lower lobe crew rest). This is where the FA's take their crew rest.

The XP/XQ is the LLRC 777

The XC/XD will have the FA crew rest seats which will be moved from row 17-19 HJ to row 24-26 CDE I'm not sure of the exact row numbers but it's the last 2 rows in the middle section before the lavs. So when you see the plane on a non int'l route row 24 or 25 CDE will be the new 21 HJ that has all the extra leg room.

Last update I heard which could change was the plane should be out April 14th-17th. Still SFO-LHR-DEN-SFO routing.
Thanks for the update. LHR people won't take long to give us their take.
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Old Apr 9, 2010, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by Aluminum tubing

Last update I heard which could change was the plane should be out April 14th-17th. Still SFO-LHR-DEN-SFO routing.
Thanks very much for the latest update, Alum.

Now here's a question: If an upgrade from Y to C were available at this point on this route for flights after mid-April with the old C configuration showing right now, should someone risk booking it? I don't mean risk whether it might still be old C, which is a given. Rather, is there a chance that you could book the old C upgrade but lose it and be back in Y due to fewer seats if it ends up being the new C configuration?
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Old Apr 9, 2010, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by pigx5
When you book the flight between DENVER to SFO after April 17, you can see the seat map on .bomb.
But the 777 shown is a domestic version (ie no business class-crappy f section)
I thought they were converting an International 777 at SFO maintainence?

Originally Posted by Aluminum tubing

Last update I heard which could change was the plane should be out April 14th-17th. Still SFO-LHR-DEN-SFO routing.
Again confusing as DEN-SFO is a domestic config.777 route as far as I can tell

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Old Apr 9, 2010, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by tattikat2
Again confusing as DEN-SFO is a domestic config.777 route as far as I can tell
Maybe it is now, but that doesn't mean it will be forever.
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Old Apr 9, 2010, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Aluminum tubing
6-8 of reconfig 777 are adding the LLCR ( lower lobe crew rest). This is where the FA's take their crew rest.

The XP/XQ is the LLRC 777

The XC/XD will have the FA crew rest seats which will be moved from row 17-19 HJ to row 24-26 CDE I'm not sure of the exact row numbers but it's the last 2 rows in the middle section before the lavs. So when you see the plane on a non int'l route row 24 or 25 CDE will be the new 21 HJ that has all the extra leg room.

Last update I heard which could change was the plane should be out April 14th-17th. Still SFO-LHR-DEN-SFO routing.
Any info on which of the SFO/LHR flight numbers is scheduled for the new config???
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Old Apr 9, 2010, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by chuckiec
Any info on which of the SFO/LHR flight numbers is scheduled for the new config???
Since the known flight is LHR-DEN (UA939) and there is only 1, leaving about 1pm from LHR (using the May schedule) the only SFO-LHR flight that makes sense is UA954. UA930 arrives after UA939 departs, so it can't be the later departure from San Francisco. Then the flight turns in Denver and becomes UA595 back to SFO and the plane overnights at SFO where they can work on it until it is ready again for UA954 the next day.

And I'm willing to bet that's your official launch schedule for this plane once the domestic turns are done and it's in proper international service.

UA954-UA939-UA595, rinse, repeat.
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