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Status of UA's 777 Conversion to new International First, Business and Economy Seats

Status of UA's 777 Conversion to new International First, Business and Economy Seats

 
Old Mar 17, 2010, 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
I am amazed by the inquisitive minds of those who keep wanting more information on the 777 reconfigurations. Are there better things out there that are more interesting to spend time on?

Why should UA need to provide the minute-by-minute reality TV-type of updated information to the public. I don't see people complaining about lacking detailed progress report on their favorite rental car company's fleet update program or looking for new room layout of a refurbished hotel properties.

So what if UA provides that information? Does it really matter and make a difference for people who fly because they have to fly. The slowness of its 777 reconfiurgation has not impacted hundreds and thousands of flyers who have to fly for work. Do you think they worry about when and what seats they will be sitting in versus earning a living to put food on the table.

I think some of the postes in this forum are going overboard a little. Go analyze the ever changing healthcare reform bills or go figure next NFL draft.
Well if you want to know about rental cars and hotel rooms you are in the wrong forum, check out rentaltalk and hoteltalk .
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Old Mar 17, 2010, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
Believe what you want. Those of us who read the forum know exactly who to believe and know what's going on well before UA announces anything...
Believe me, believe me!

Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
I think some of the postes in this forum are going overboard a little. Go analyze the ever changing healthcare reform bills or go figure next NFL draft.
If either of those fly....

Seriously though, happy to see UA taking their time on these so we don't get subfleets with different IPTE (think 767 with iPod connectors ).
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Old Mar 17, 2010, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by SFflyer123
I know it's probably speculative, but do you have any idea which would be the first route? Being in SFO, I am hoping it is SFO-LHR or SFO-FRA. But does anybody have any more concrete info?
i'll take 914 iad-cdg on june 21st or 915 cdg-iad on june 29th (with perhaps a minor on ua967 iad-lax on june 29th as well) if you please
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Old Mar 17, 2010, 6:36 am
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i would like iad-nrt 6/8 please, then of course onward to BKK

its going to take a while to get used to 3-3-3 in Y, ill miss my 2 seats
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Old Mar 17, 2010, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by SFflyer123
do you have any idea which would be the first route? Being in SFO, I am hoping it is SFO-LHR or SFO-FRA.
The only info I've heard that might hint at that is the list of which FAs were the first to receive training on the new config, which includes SFO, LHR, and FRA (and if I recall correctly ORD and IAD).
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Old Mar 17, 2010, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
The only info I've heard that might hint at that is the list of which FAs were the first to receive training on the new config, which includes SFO, LHR, and FRA (and if I recall correctly ORD and IAD).
SFO-LHR-DEN-SFO - although this is subject to change - after the aircraft has flown domestically for several days.
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Old Mar 17, 2010, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by Explorin92
I'm not exactly sure why they're not giving any information - my best guess is that since the 777 modification was pushed back for several months and they are taking their time with the first one to make sure it's perfect, they don't want to set a specific date for the roll-out. I have a feeling that once the first model is finished United will promote it heavily to lure business travelers away from other airlines in the int'l market.
One out of 40-something converted isn't going to lure anyone, that's not enough to do even one international route.

Haven recently flown NRT-SIN-NRT in an old 777 in F, I can confirm that at least 2 of the old config 777's are getting pretty darn ratty with, on both flights, selected non-functional passenger amenities.
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Old Mar 17, 2010, 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
Why should UA need to provide the minute-by-minute reality TV-type of updated information to the public. I don't see people complaining about lacking detailed progress report on their favorite rental car company's fleet update program or looking for new room layout of a refurbished hotel properties.
Actually, in the cruise industry, some of the most popular web sites are those put up by the lines which cover dry dock renovations of their ships. Several ships over the past two years which have had extensive renovations/reconfigurations have been covered, and the sites remain extremely popular each new ship which is posted.

So FTers aren't the only ones who are obsessed with the changes to their transportation mode of choice.
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 12:56 am
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Originally Posted by RichardInSF

Haven recently flown NRT-SIN-NRT in an old 777 in F, I can confirm that at least 2 of the old config 777's are getting pretty darn ratty with, on both flights, selected non-functional passenger amenities.
There are more than two, especially on those 23xx and 29xx, aka the ones with carpet on the wall.
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 5:12 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
The only info I've heard that might hint at that is the list of which FAs were the first to receive training on the new config, which includes SFO, LHR, and FRA (and if I recall correctly ORD and IAD).
Dad flies the Middle East routes and he has recieved training/manual pages, what's your point? I think when every F/A recieves the reciprocal training, it includes any new addition to the fleet. (Dad has still not shown me the new seat map . )
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 5:43 am
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Originally Posted by RichardInSF
One out of 40-something converted isn't going to lure anyone, that's not enough to do even one international route.

Haven recently flown NRT-SIN-NRT in an old 777 in F, I can confirm that at least 2 of the old config 777's are getting pretty darn ratty with, on both flights, selected non-functional passenger amenities.
Im flying this in F in june...how bad is it? is service even bad now?
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by dcsnowwake
Im flying this in F in june...how bad is it? is service even bad now?
There are a few threads regarding UA's international first in the 777. The general consensus (among those that post) is that the hard product is falling apart and the soft product is sorely lacking. However, this should be mitigated by the fact that it's most likely only those who received poor experiences bother to post, while those who have good experiences are just content to not say anything.

I know that I am guilty of the above, in which I will post immediately on FT about any perceived slight or deficit, but am much not nearly as proactive about posting some of the positives.

This may be human nature, or perhaps I am just projecting.
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 8:29 am
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Originally Posted by planemechanic
There is nothing speculative about it. The first 777 IPTE conversion is currently being done by UA's own mechanics at SFO.
I thought there was some conflicting information, and that the bird we had been told was in for conversion had subsequently been spotted making regular runs?? Maybe I'm dreaming.
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by johdhj
There are a few threads regarding UA's international first in the 777. The general consensus (among those that post) is that the hard product is falling apart and the soft product is sorely lacking. However, this should be mitigated by the fact that it's most likely only those who received poor experiences bother to post, while those who have good experiences are just content to not say anything.

I know that I am guilty of the above, in which I will post immediately on FT about any perceived slight or deficit, but am much not nearly as proactive about posting some of the positives.

This may be human nature, or perhaps I am just projecting.
I flew IAD-LHR on a 777 a few days ago. Everything worked, and the service was fine. I find the current suite quite comfortable, though of course the new generation is much better. But I'll still take old F over new C under these circumstances.
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
Why should UA need to provide the minute-by-minute reality TV-type of updated information to the public. I don't see people complaining about lacking detailed progress report on their favorite rental car company's fleet update program or looking for new room layout of a refurbished hotel properties.
Maybe because it was UA who undertook to create the suitedreams.com website to show off the new cabins and day-to-day conversion status diagrams, which UA has now abandoned updating. I don't think people would be complaining about UA's failure to update its graphs if UA had not advertised the graphs in the first place.

Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
So what if UA provides that information? Does it really matter and make a difference for people who fly because they have to fly. The slowness of its 777 reconfiurgation has not impacted hundreds and thousands of flyers who have to fly for work. Do you think they worry about when and what seats they will be sitting in versus earning a living to put food on the table.
Many people on FT don't fly because they have to fly, or they fly more than they have to fly. Cabin conversions may not affect people who only worry about earning a living to put food on the table, and not about the airplane seats. But those people are not on FT. "FlyerTalk" was created specifically to talk about the experience of flying, and it would be a waste of productive time for someone to be on here if the only thing they care about is putting food on the table.
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