Status of UA's 777 Conversion to new International First, Business and Economy Seats
Mar 2, 2010, 9:40 am
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If UA's 777 retrofit does not include Panasonic's latest system Xseries (or equivalent) I will be sorely disappointed. There is no point in installing "tape/loop system" even in the digital format. It is like putting cassettes in cars still.
I expect the 777 to be in 3 3 3, and look like this
Disappointing United isn't releasing photos or flash demos like they did when F and C got the upgrade.
AND BRING BACK BPM programming
I expect the 777 to be in 3 3 3, and look like this
Disappointing United isn't releasing photos or flash demos like they did when F and C got the upgrade.
AND BRING BACK BPM programming
Mar 2, 2010, 10:39 am
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My guess is they will go touch-screen rather than remote to save weight and cost...and that AVOD does show up. And I hope they don't go with that plastic circle for the cups - the tiny cups with sharp edges. So SQ/LH. 
That said, the addition of AC power is the key upgrade for many.
Still have the open question...footrests?
That said, the addition of AC power is the key upgrade for many.
Still have the open question...footrests?
Mar 2, 2010, 10:52 am
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Mar 2, 2010, 10:54 am
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Mar 2, 2010, 11:29 am
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Found this video the other day...start it at the 2:15 mark when they walk through the 747-400. Notice how crammed all the C seats are and how crowded the upper deck looks. Also notice the legroom at 4:16...looks like E+ today.
Rather nostalgic....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWZxrU8ldA4
Rather nostalgic....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWZxrU8ldA4
As cram as it was the C seat, it still has 44" of legroom, that was pretty standard in the 90s for everyone in C.
C meal at that time wasn't even using trays at all, it was like F.
Footrest in Y is a bad idea, not unless you are 5"5" or shorter. When the footrest flip up, it had taken at least 1" of legroom.
Mar 2, 2010, 12:20 pm
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With only 40 C seats, (roughly ~20% reduction from old config) how many international segments will the average 1K have to fly in order to clear 6 systemwide upgrades from Y to C? It does not seem to be promising.
Mar 2, 2010, 12:26 pm
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1) Leave the 2-5-2 config.
2) Use the new dual-view screens I saw at CES two years ago and mount dual-view screens on the backs of D and F seats. (E seats get a regular screen; no screens on the backs of C or G seats).
3) Pax in C seats look a bit to the right and see/hear one channel, pax in D seats look a bit to the left and see/hear another channel. Same thing for F/G seats.
4) Total screens per row of 5 seats: 3. (Two of which are dual-view screen)
5) Weight problem solved.
See? I told you it was a budget issue!
BTW, you could also do this for the AB and HJ rows and save even more weight.
Mar 2, 2010, 12:31 pm
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Or just hook-up with a 3rd and travel as a threesome as well.
Ideally they'd have gone 2-4-3 to satisfy couples and typical 2 kid families (such as mine) as well. But not to be.
Ideally they'd have gone 2-4-3 to satisfy couples and typical 2 kid families (such as mine) as well. But not to be.
Mar 2, 2010, 1:43 pm
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My guess is they will go touch-screen rather than remote to save weight and cost...and that AVOD does show up. And I hope they don't go with that plastic circle for the cups - the tiny cups with sharp edges. So SQ/LH.
That said, the addition of AC power is the key upgrade for many.
Still have the open question...footrests?
That said, the addition of AC power is the key upgrade for many.
Still have the open question...footrests?
Mar 2, 2010, 1:53 pm
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For economy:
It's touchscreen, seat slides forward when reclined and has credit card slot for purchasing certain in-flight entertainment.
Uses same system as UF/UB but with less options and smaller screen.
There are still some 2-seaters in E+, namely the seats in front of the exit rows.
Some E+ center seats have a lot of pitch(crewrest seats).
It's touchscreen, seat slides forward when reclined and has credit card slot for purchasing certain in-flight entertainment.
Uses same system as UF/UB but with less options and smaller screen.
There are still some 2-seaters in E+, namely the seats in front of the exit rows.
Some E+ center seats have a lot of pitch(crewrest seats).
Mar 2, 2010, 2:42 pm
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Don't worry? I like the cupholder in the seatback. it folds away when you dont want it, and holds the current united econ cups. Oh well.
Mar 2, 2010, 2:48 pm
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More importantly, having just the swing-out cupholder encourages FAs to only fill the cup, not provide the whole can by default as they do today. @:-)
I like UA drink service the way it is - I do NOT want to go the way of SQ/LH.
Mar 2, 2010, 7:08 pm
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