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Old Feb 25, 2011, 9:16 am
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Ual.com offering YYZ as a connection point IAD-LAX

I didn't try to ticket the reservation, so it may well not go through, but I found it odd to find YYZ pop up when pricing out IAD-LAX. Isn't there a law of some sort about connecting in Canada when origin and destination are both US?

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Old Feb 25, 2011, 9:19 am
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Now only if UA could offer YYZ-ORD-YVR for half the price of the gougers at AC
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 9:36 am
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I thought it was only a problem if AC tried to sell you the ticket.
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 9:53 am
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I don't think that's supposed to be allowed. Considering that SFO-YVR-ANC isn't a valid connection either (I'm pretty sure of that), even though it makes sense from a geographical perspective.
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 10:12 am
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Shouldn't be happening...
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 10:23 am
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Should not be happening .... but an FT's delight!
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 10:27 am
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YVR is a valid connection on SFO-YVR-ANC. Alaska used to fly this route (direct flight, no plane change). I flew RT on this a few years back. We were required to have a passport with us and had to present it upon boarding in SFO. We stayed on the plane in YVR though. Was sad that I didn't get to see the airport.
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 10:35 am
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Originally Posted by JAaronT
I thought it was only a problem if AC tried to sell you the ticket.
I think this is the key, a US carrier could sell you a ticket between two US points that connect in Canada, while AC cannot. AC could sell a ticket between two Canadian points that connect in the US. while a US carrier could not. Basically the nationality of the operating carrier must coincide with the origin and destination. At least I think that's how it works...
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 10:36 am
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AA is a US flagged carrier. US flagged carriers have the rights to fly between US cities. A wholly foreign flagged carrier's routing would be not allowed.

There is no protectionist rules preventing US flagged carriers from capturing US O & D travel.
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 11:11 am
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Technically, it's not cabotage: "Airline cabotage is the carriage of air traffic that originates and terminates within the boundaries of a given country by an air carrier of another country." I wonder if they're both UA-flagged flights, or if one's an AC codeshare, or whether that matters.

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Should not be happening .... but an FT's delight!
Given YYZ's taxes & fees, probably one of the worse places to segment-hop. (However, you miiight get a chance to ride YYZ's famous speedwalk.) That said, I'm glad to see that UA allows non-non-stop routings between hubs.
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 11:24 am
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Given YYZ's taxes & fees, probably one of the worse places to segment-hop.
I'm sure that will come out when the person is comparing prices on line, no???
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by kevinsac
I'm sure that will come out when the person is comparing prices on line, no???
Yes, though if using UA's site, on the initial page where all flight options are presented, fares do not include taxes/fees. So this would only be evident when booking through, or using the fare breakdown link to see ai price.

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YVR is a valid connection on SFO-YVR-ANC. Alaska used to fly this route (direct flight, no plane change). I flew RT on this a few years back. We were required to have a passport with us and had to present it upon boarding in SFO. We stayed on the plane in YVR though. Was sad that I didn't get to see the airport.
I guess I got confused, was thinking that AC can't sell the route, again, even though geographically, this makes sense. Though I guess UA could sell it, connecting on the summertime AC-operated flight if a UA codeshare?
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 4:59 pm
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Hemispheres map

on 890 yesterday did not show YYZ as a destination.
I don't know how literally one is expected to take those maps---some hubs show so many colored lines to/from, but I certainly couldn't find T'ronna as a destination option.
If it no longer is, there's gonna be hell to pay when it's reunion time for my U of T buddies this summer ..

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Old Feb 25, 2011, 7:58 pm
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My corp travel desk shows AC as a valid routing to South America. Some of the cheaper GRU flights from NYC were NYC-YYZ-GRU. Didn't want to take AC or go north to go south.
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Old Feb 25, 2011, 8:23 pm
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Check how it breaks the fare. If they're selling you IAD-YYZ + YYZ-LAX, that's perfectly fine. They're selling you an open-jaw ticket to Toronto with a return to LAX. You're just not spending a lot of time in YYZ.
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