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kb1992 Dec 1, 2008 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by PSUhorty (Post 10838789)

I agree! great use of 'em! However, that was just one data point, if you will. I don't fly SFO-BOS. If I did, the CR-1's wold be quite useful!

I learned my lesson. Once I gambled on SFO-BOS, didn't use CR1, but my UG didn't clear under e500s.

From now on, I book tix on this route based on NF availability, unless I am on a higher fare e.g. M/B fares then I would waitlist.

PSUhorty Dec 1, 2008 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by UAX_Brasilia (Post 10840027)
Sandpiper? Nothing like golfing on right on the Pacific ocean! (I live here :))

Back on topic, if I were you, I would connect in ORD (or DEN) and LAX (or SFO/SJC) and use the CR-1's. Much more comfort, and if you can secure 9BC on the Brasilia, that is just about as good as F, without the service. Then head on over to Sandpiper for an early morning round.

If the above doesn't work, I'll take a CR-1 or two ;)

No, not Sandpiper. No offense, but can't stand that course. Overpriced. Below average course, ridiculous layout (few holes aside), and average to poor conditions. My favorite course is La Purisima.


Originally Posted by CPMaverick
I'll tell you what's useless: ridiculous exaggeration of thread titles.

Eeeeeeasy there, trigger. I can't use CR-1's as some others perhaps can. Simple, really. Sheeesh.

elihu1991 Dec 1, 2008 10:08 pm

have to agree with the OP
 
CR1s seem to be clearing like e500s these days. united is being ultra-stingy with both upgrades as well as upper class award travel. i had been plat on CO and sadly now that is going the way of star alliance. am gold on DL and will be moving that way in the near future. on recent NW and DL legs, have gotten upgrades in advance in 75% of flights. that is better than UA with the certs....

and don't even try to start with me in intl flights....

weero Dec 1, 2008 10:15 pm

I dare not to extrapolate: if CR1s are diminishing in value thanks to cabins shrinking how would one phrase what is happening to SWUs :eek: ???

pokecheckted Dec 1, 2008 10:23 pm

As one who lives at a coast hub (SFO), I'd be happy to put your unusable CR1s to use. :D
I managed to use 2 of them on a RT to SJU (via STT), and it was worth the wait.

playbbg Dec 1, 2008 10:25 pm

I think its crazy how stingy UA is being on their upgrades granted. they awarded the upgrades to us for our loyalty. if they will not allow us to use them, then maybe i shouldn't be so loyal....

UAX_Brasilia Dec 1, 2008 10:28 pm


Originally Posted by playbbg (Post 10841080)
I think its crazy how stingy UA is being on their upgrades granted. they awarded the upgrades to us for our loyalty. if they will not allow us to use them, then maybe i shouldn't be so loyal....

I really don't know what you are talking about. My last 6 upgrades cleared before check-in (2 of them the infamous SFO-ORD), and I am only 1P.

PSUhorty Dec 2, 2008 6:07 am

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Again, my take on the inability to use CR-1's has nothing to do with missing the upgrade (I think I'm nearly 100% when I attempt to) but rather with me flying so many ac's w/out first class.

Diplomatico Dec 2, 2008 7:27 am


Originally Posted by PSUhorty (Post 10842078)
Okay, back to regularly sched. programming....
Again, my take on the inability to use CR-1's has nothing to do with missing the upgrade (I think I'm nearly 100% when I attempt to) but rather with me flying so many ac's w/out first class.

Isn't that more a function of where you live and where you choose to travel than the relative worth of a CR-1? :confused:

Dub Dec 2, 2008 7:57 am

Have to disagree with the original premise. Sure, it's getting more difficult to upgrade my BOS-SFO trips (see below), but CR-1's are what keep me from jumping ship to AA. I get 8 CR-1's and 6 SWU as a 1K. AA would only give me 8 SWU-equivalents as a 1K equivalent. That's a huge difference.

Still, UA are nuts to put A319's on BOS-SFO/LAX. They are constantly weight restricted, never mind having less chance to use my CR-1s. Oh yes, sorry, that's the plan!

Ocn Vw 1K Dec 2, 2008 8:42 am

Quick topic check: the utility of CR1s. Let's please stay on-topic. Thanks! Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator, United Mileage+.

MikeBOS Dec 2, 2008 9:33 am


Originally Posted by Dub (Post 10842536)
Have to disagree with the original premise. Sure, it's getting more difficult to upgrade my BOS-SFO trips (see below), but CR-1's are what keep me from jumping ship to AA. I get 8 CR-1's and 6 SWU as a 1K. AA would only give me 8 SWU-equivalents as a 1K equivalent. That's a huge difference.

I am currently EXP and not long ago was 1K, based in BOS. I think you're better off on AA unless you can consistently plan far enough ahead to get confirmed upgrades with your CR-1s (I was never able to do this). AA does not limit the upgrades, and while BOS-SFO is a tough upgrade on both airlines, my experience has been that shorter flights are much, much easier on AA as EXP than they were on UA as 1K (mostly due, I think, to the larger number of F seats on most planes).

I would also argue that 8 VIPs (AA equivalent of SWUs) are more valuable than 6 SWUs, if you travel enough internationally to make use of all 8 (given that there is no need for a CR-1 equivalent on AA unless you are able to confirm CR-1s in advance).

EsquireFlyer Dec 2, 2008 10:10 am


Originally Posted by PSUhorty (Post 10838608)
I'm not gonna burn a CR-1 for one leg of the trip, albeit a longer one. . . . But, really, I don't want to add another connection into my itin JUST to use a CR-1

Suddenly, the problem comes into focus. F cabins just aren't profitable on some short segments, and if you insist that you will only use CR-1s if every segment is upgradeablle, while you also predominantly fly to/from regional airports like SBA, then some of your CR-1s are just going to go unused.

youreadyfreddie Dec 2, 2008 10:13 am

So PSUhorty, I think you are saying that CR-1s are the new e500s? ;)

emanon256 Dec 2, 2008 10:16 am


Originally Posted by youreadyfreddie (Post 10843318)
CR-1s are the new e500s? ;)

I like it! :D


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